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I don't care if kids see porn.
If that's the worst thing ever, justifying this invasion of privacy, whoop de shit. Let 'em.
There's a lot worse on the internet. There's a lot worse on daytime television. Blood and guts and cults and informercials. Desirable crude entertainment is obviously not worth locking down the internet. I mean for fuck's sake, at least with "four horsemen" excuses, like terrorism and money laundering, people agree that those things are bad.
It's absolutely reprehensible that you think it's okay for a child to see an infomercial
The thing is that by now, plenty of adults grew up watching porn when they were minors, and know that this hasn't been harmful to them... so why are we even still getting laws like that, shouldn't voters and their representatives know better by now...
These people are not results-oriented.
I'm stealing that for the next time I have to explain that I'm being held up by a third party not doing what they're supposed to.
They are. Their intended result is just not the result they claim to want.
It’s old white fossils trying to stay in power by getting crazy christians to vote for them.
What about addiction? It’s not 100% but very possible
OK, so we should require everyone to present ID for anything that could be addictive? That's some awful "save the kids" BS. Screw that!
If you want to prevent your kids from watching porn, cool, do that. But don't force everyone else to ID themselves because you're too lazy to actually parent your kids.
Being on porn sites all day is healthier than being on social media all day.
I'd disagree.
I mean, blood pressure and prostate health alone...
Sure, but thats not from porn, thats from jerking off. You should be able to do that without porn.
And you can live on food without spices.
Sure, but spices aren't actively detrimental to your mental health.
... neither is porn.
It is. You're delusional if you think it isn't.
Lois Griffin hentai won't change your biochemistry more than salt.
D'ya still think it'll put hair on your palms, and make Jesus cry?
Grow up.
I don't think it will do any of those things, but overconsuming porn can have more damaging effects than just plain social media.
I'm not saying its neccesarily bad though.
You just did. You called me delusional for saying otherwise. It's been the central conceit of this conversation.
Thats not what I meant, sorry if it came off as otherwise.
Your original comment was:
Which is definitely false. Porn, occasionally and controllably, is fine! But constant - and regular - porn viewing is definetely harmful.
Not fuckin' really, no. Except in basically the same way as any media addiction, like doomscrolling on any safe-for-work hellsite.
While both are addictive, porn is far more addictive, and it give short term dopamine spikes, which makes everything else seem less interesting or enjoyable, again, this is only regular watching.
Rates of doomscrolling versus... habitual gooning... suggest that you're recycling some moral-panic conclusions without re-examining the science. Antipatterns have made the disorganized attachment of places like this far more common and far more popular than pornography.
If dopamine's all you're worried about, worry more about mobile games than the naked fanart of their characters.
For the dopamine thing, while crappy mobile games do have an impact, its not as severe as porn.
What about it? Hell of a lot lore likely with caffeine and we don't make you age verify when a kid buys coffee or tea or soda. If addiction occurs, that's the jurisdiction of medical professionals and the person's support network.
I was never exposed to porn on the internet as a child, outside of advertisements and typing website names wrong. I never looked for it either, if a child is actively seeking it out, its up to a parent to deal with it. People should stop making laws to protect bad parents.
What a nice cherry on top of the hypocrisy pie. The party of "personal responsibility" and "small government" is perfectly happy when government is used to regulate sexuality and help out the irresponsible parents that don't want to spend time monitoring their children's Internet usage. Now young teens are going to learn how to use VPNs or just find the shadier sites that don't give a shit about U.S. state laws.
Both of which would be adequately addressed by parents learning how to use the tools that are probably already built into their router.
Exactly. Screw everyone on both sides of the aisle that thinks this is anywhere near a good idea.
If you hate porn, be vocal about tools to block stuff you don't like on your own network. Maybe even require ISPs to distribute that info to their customers. But don't force anyone to do it.
Yes, you're right. But that doesn't fit with their "think of the children" moral compass. Which isn't even pointing the correct direction, but good luck convincing them of that.
I feel like my compass analogy isn't the best, but eh.
A valid response to "think of the children" is "fuck them kids."
It's not enough to politely disagree. Some fucks need to be dismissed.
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Let me child see porn or trust a porn site with their photo and IS?