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[–] riley0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've been following this on Russian- and English-language sites. Nobody but BBC alleged Russian responsibility, and they cited no evidence. Remember when Boris Johnson personally tanked peace negotiations?

[–] Magnus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

A plane with a lost wing that looks to have been hit by a missile with photos of it falling from the sky and videos of the explosion as it hits the ground on Russian soil. Russia tanked peace negotiations when they didn't leave Ukraine.

There is more evidence about this than evidence of Putins butthole. I guess the only people who will really know are the salad flipping pro Russian propagandists.

[–] riley0@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago

Show us the evidence.

[–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, everyone else just says it between the lines instead. Hinting at it if you will.

Maybe it's just dangerous to be above the ground in Russia. So many people are mistakenly falling out of windows these days.

[–] riley0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have to ask, who else these days? b/c I fear we are demonizing Russia, Russians, and Putin the same way we demonized Iraq, Arabs, and Saddam Husein before our awful foray into that country. UK and France have been actively discouraging Ukraine during peace negotiations. See for yourself. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_negotiations_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine

[–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, poor Putin, the innocent victim in all of this, he doesn't deserve to be demonized. Quite frankly, it's Ukraine's fault for being invaded.

and just to make it incredibly clear. That was sarcasm. Because I'm a little worried you wouldn't be able to pick up on that.

[–] riley0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah, poor NATO citzen, having their spoon-fed, govt-approved view of the world challenged by someone who actually pays attention to what the rest of the world says. Wallow in your ignorance. I'm done.

[–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

As a matter of fact. I'm not a NATO citizen. Try better.