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[โ€“] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Hedonism IS pretty badass when done ethically and collectively.

Maximizing pleasure and minimizing pain in the world is a much better thing to live for than accruing capital or assuring that people within a certain geographical area have it better than others if you ask me ๐Ÿคท

[โ€“] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Maximizing pleasure and minimizing pain in the world is a much better thing to live for than accruing capital or assuring that people within a certain geographical area have it better than others if you ask me ๐Ÿคท

Sure but that doesn't make it badass.

[โ€“] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 0 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

The reason why it isn't badass is it prioritizies self over others. Under a hedonistic worldview, your own pleasure matters more than another living beings pain.

It aligns well with capitalism and its inventivization of personal enrichment even if at an expense to others.

In my view being "badass" is taking care of each other, even the supposed "least" amongst us (if we are to believe in such hierarchies), as our superheros and religious figures are written.

There's a reason we have immortalized such figures and I would describe exactly none of them as hedonistic. Rather they often take on incredible personal pain to bring safety and security to others. That is what I would call badass.

The reason why it isn't badass is it prioritizies self over others

Did you not spot the "ethically and collectively" part? It's very near the start of the comment and invalidates your entire objection.

In my view being "badass" is taking care of each other, even the supposed "least" amongst us

Couldn't agree more if I tried. Except I'd change "even" to "especially". Minimizing of pain, remember?

they often take on incredible personal pain to bring safety and security to others. That is what I would call badass.

Again, ethical and collective hedonism inevitably includes such sacrifice for the common good