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Israel war: Israeli foreign minister says Gaza territory will shrink after war
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Isreal has shown time and again that they have no qualms blatantly stealing land. Doubt they needed the justification.
Okay, I'm willing to believe that Israel had a contingency plan ready to exploit the political leeway created if they were hit by a terrible attack. Like "if they kill a bunch of Israelis, this is our shopping-list of objectives to gain ground and kill targets in a time when the world can't criticize us". I would believe there are people in the Israeli military who are amoral enough to do that.
However, believing they looked the other way when they knew about an impending attack strains credulity.
And if you're believing they were active participants in orchestrating an attack on their own people? That means you need your tinfoil hat loosened.
Well, they did fund hamas...
As dumb as it sounds, the FBI actually found and red flagged a few of the 9/11 terrorists months before the attack.
Of which the CIA, DoD, and White House convincently ignored.
I don't really think Israel set this up, but sometimes I wonder if there's intentional negligence because how else do you miss such a significant planned attack.
Although both could also be explained by bluffs. Maybe they really didn't think Hamas was actually going to go through with anything, especially since there was no building escalation.
Which would make sense because Mossad's intelligence is supposed to be world-renowned.
It's hard to argue that the escalations of harassment, settler expansion, and killings of Palestinians in 2023 wouldn't lead to some sort of retribution attack by Palestinians. I think the Israelis were shocked by the success of the attack and the failure of their security system to minimize the damage. I don't think they were oblivious when many analysts and even the Egyptian government suggested a few days earlier that things were getting hot (they didn't warn of an imminent attack like was reported in some media, but that there was an increasing threat of some sort of violent resistance to Israel's violation of international law).
Israel knows they're violating the 1967 borders, they also know how bullying works. Every few months, bulldoze some houses and claim that area as your own. Keep squeezing and poking until your victim lashes out violently and then use that violence as justification to be more violent. It's a classic bully tactic.
A ploy? Meaning they hired Hamas to attack and kill their own people so they could then take more land?
Bibi netanyahu literally gave money / supported Hamas: https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/
What you linked is very different than “this latest attack is a ploy to take more land”.
Your own fucking source suggests it was an attempt to maintain what little peace they could.
Did you even read it? Did anyone who downvoted me read it?
Sure maintain peace, and not undermine the Palestinian Authority. That's why he gave the radical group support.
I summarized someone else’s source. Take it up with them.
The point of that link is to show you that bibi has ties with hamas and it's not out of the realm of possibility that he still has some sorts of connection, if not influence then intel.
The plot of "provoke an attack - allow it to happen - retaliate with force - steal land as a result" isn't that hard to imagine, because this shit happens all the time. Even I remember the exact same thing from 2 years ago
Sounds fucking ridiculous. Especially when you consider they FORCED their own citizens out of settlements in Gaza in 05.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_disengagement_from_Gaza
In less than 10 hours after the hospital blast, Isreal released a torrent of evidence they didn't do it. Video, film, conversations, informants, ect. But I'm suppose to believe they were in the dark about the Octobet attack? Even after advanced warning from the U.S and Egypt. That dog won't hunt monsignor. At best they didn't know how bad it would be.
They were totally in the dark, yet hours later justified every bomb with their precise information of how every single bomb target was a known hideout for Hamas terrorists.
No, they didn't hire Hamas. They actually created them like they exist today.
By not doing anything after the Oslo agreements and just sitting their happily that they could de facto occopy the area while someone else (the internation community) pays until Hamas got a majority in 2006.
By even then not supporting the peaceful side against Hamas but sitting their gloating as Palestinians killed Palestinians.
By indirectly supporting Hamas to use them as an excuse showing that the National Authority isn't speaking for Palestinians and so there is no need to work with them in any way.
No, all they did was unlock the door and turn off the security cameras, same result tho. The rave was birdseed in the middle of a giant red target.