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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 43 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

I remember when Voyager was the "bad" Star Trek. Now I have heard from many people that it's their favorite.

Edit: Come to think of it, I remember when DS9 was the "bad" Star Trek that was "just a Babylon 5 ripoff."

I have always been of the opinion that the best Star Trek is the Star Trek you like most. (Except for you people who like J.J. Trek the most. You're weird.)

[–] PrinceWith999Enemies@lemmy.world 28 points 9 months ago

Oh, hell - I’m old enough that I remember when TNG first came out. I was like “WTF is this?!” “The Enterprise is a pizza wheel now?!!” “Why does the French captain have an English accent and why is he such a prick?!!!”

To be fair, solely in the context of TOS, those first few episodes and most of the first season were pretty bizarre. I mean, those Ferengi as the main bad guys meant to replace the Klingons? Q was just out of left field. The idea was actually great in hindsight, but the execution was honestly terrible. Then the writers started figuring out the plot and the actors started figuring out their roles, and now it’s considered the standard against which all other Treks are measured.

I think it was DS9 where the First Season Rule was discovered, along with The Beardening phenomenon.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

In my memory it was the just the first season of DS9 that was a struggle back when things where originally airing. My friends and I were hooked hard by season 2.

And Voyager did have a serious Berman problem. Of course if Rick Berman's handling of Voyager hadn't been so bad that it made Ronald D. Moore quit Star Trek then we may have never gotten Battlestar Galactica. So, silver linings.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago (3 children)

On the other hand, BSG had one of the most unsatisfying finales in the history of shows that were allowed to have a finale before cancellation.

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

Game of a Thrones enters the chat

[–] Steve@startrek.website 5 points 9 months ago

The one where the crew settled on ancient earth and fucked the cavemen and time is a flat circle?

I liked it to be honest

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yeah. The whole second half of the last season feels like they had to change plans at the last minute - which wasn't the case as far as we know.

[–] Steve@startrek.website 7 points 9 months ago

JJ Trek hurts me