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Blaming Linus for breaking Linux is what's wrong with the Linux community. You guys are so blind to the obvious glaring issues with Linux Desktop that any time something goes wrong, it must have been the user who did something stupid.
Sure, you CAN get it working the first time without issues, but the amount of times I tried Linux Desktop without any issues is 0. Every single time I installed Linux, I had some kind of breaking issue. I have tried multiple times between 2007 and 2021 and I'll likely try again soon, but don't kid yourself that people "play dumb" or something. Linux is as stable as the user makes it, and with instable, fragile, incompetent users (like most new users) come a fragile OS that cannot be relied upon.
I'm 100% sure if I try to install Ubuntu Desktop right now on my desktop, I'll again encounter some BS thing that just doesn't work like it should. Maybe the audio won't work, or bluetooth just drops out constantly, or it randomly freezes, or YT videos don't play at any decent framerate. Maybe everything works fine, but in 4 days some random thing doesn't. And once some thing doesn't work, you'll have to waddle through a sea of sudo commands that you have no clue what they're doing and you either fix the issue or break something else.
Note that I specifically mention Linux Desktop every time. Linux as a Server is great.
It’s true, I’m somebody who has run DIY distros daily for years and decided to try out Debian on a spare computer recently. I couldn’t even update the system after the initial install. It took me like forty minutes to find a thread which explained to me that Debian 12 has a bug with some raspi firmware that requires you to delete three files before apt will work, and there is 0 indication on the paths themselves, just people who have figured it out and were generous enough to share the knowledge. You can’t blame new users for those things, we as a community need to improve the software and the attitudes
Which one is it?
All those claims you make about things not working in 2023 is ridiculous. I've been using various distros since 2009 and maybe you could have claimed those things back then. But if you can't make Linux work at least as easily as windows in 2023, that's on you.
Linus demonstrated his willful ignorance right from when he ignored that warning in the command prompt.
Linux: WARNING DONT DO THIS Linus: well I guess I'm going to have to do that. Linux: breaks Linus: Linux sucks
Fanboys: LINUX SUX LINUX SUX LINUX SUX LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
@z00s
@gamebuster
to think that even more people are still talking about this
I've had a very similar experience. It's always something, drivers, video codecs, you name it. If it gives you any confidence, it's happened less and less as I've gained more experience and I'm daily driving fedora now.
I wonder if some people have just been so lucky to never have issues.
I installed Ubuntu a few months back and I honestly don't see where anything could go wrong assuming you were remotely familuar with installing any OS, even if you've only worked with windows.
Hell, getting separate devices like printers to vonnect were even wasier on Linux than Windows. O Windows I had to go to manufacturer sites to install bullshit bloatware to get things to work righr, while on Linux they literally just worked immediately - I had to the 1 button to tell Linux to connect and that was it.
This is where I suggest OpenSUSE, since it shares binaries and matched release cycle with SUSE it is highly stable, and nVidia provides a direct download for the drivers. Not saying it is perfect, but it is much more dependable than cobbling together your own distro.