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[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I hate to contradict you but I do take an interest in my life; this is why I emigrated from America, years ago.

[–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Same reason why I did last week. But I still think it’s important to care

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I care, but I think we're showing it in different ways.

[–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Being bored by political violence isn’t caring, sorry. Being bored by the rampant gun violence epidemic, being bored by the American death cult, these things are not caring.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Do you not find it tedious to carry on like this? I have given explanations of my rationale, and your response has been to talk in circles.

[–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Disagreeing with you isn’t talking in circles. Your rationale is…you’re bored and you emigrated. Cool. That rationale is fucking grim, man.

You seem to think you’ve made some incredibly compelling argument, when all you’ve done is state what you are (bored) and where you are (not the US).

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Noooo. I will try again in good faith.

I just woke up a few seconds ago, but my rationale was that we should not entertain a click driven media circus around this event, because for one thing it's largely a case of self inflicted stochastic terrorism that is being incorporated into a horse race election by a media that wants nothing more than for this race to be as close as possible (if not outright favoring Trump). We gain nothing by letting this moment really shine for Trump, and we have everything to gain by moving on, hopefully back to talking about P45, the felonies, the countless lies, the several good things Biden has actually accomplished, etc. It would also please me deeply to have known that Trump had to deal with what he narcissistically experienced as the most heroic moment of his life, only to watch everyone collectively shrug.

I did not spell this all out in prior comments, for which I apologize. I can be self absorbed at times, and what is obvious to me is regrettably often not so to others. Please do not hold onto your previous surmise of me, I am just a grumpy jokey boy who is too fond of brevity.

All the forgoing is subject to hasty edits once I am upright and caffeinated.

[–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Fair enough no hard feelings. The simple fact is we don’t know the motive. We assume but it could just as well be an obsessed fan (a la Selena) as a republican who thinks Trump isn’t extreme enough as a leftist who wants to take out a fascist. Those motives ascribe different responses. It’s also a little naive to think that you could just ignore an assassination attempt. I understand ignoring trumps day to day antics, but this is bigger than those.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's worth noting that Teddy Roosevelt was able to more or less ignore a much better attempt, and even call for the assassin to not be harmed. Though I suppose more resilience is expected of progressives. 🙃

[–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Donald Trump is no Teddy Roosevelt. Not a tenth of the leader. Teddy Roosevelt was a flawed man, but an incredible leader, and he ignored every inconvenience or barrier in his life. Being shot was like a cloudy day or a hill: just push through, it’s irrelevant.

And yes, like always progressives are held to a higher standard than fascists for everything…even assassination attempts