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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Your lede is sort of buried and is far more telling and scary.

Pence afraid to get in an SS car…

So if we expand on this - Pence was afraid for his life. He was afraid of the very agency sworn to protect him. Despite the potential threat to his life, even today he will not directly speak out against the authoritarianism that led to the situation he found himself in. He will not speak out against trump. The most he has done is simply not endorse trump.

So that’s how completely fucked up the republicans are. You can have your life in the balance as one of the literal highest elected officials in the nation, yet you won’t speak out. You won’t try to stop it from getting worse.

This is no different than Stalin’s regime, Mao’s, or any other uber-dictator that caused millions of deaths in the name of power and control.

I cannot possibly emphasize enough how hell-bent on boot-licking dictatorship the Republican Party must be if this is the case.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

People keep pestering me about how Republicans aren't literal Nazis when I compare them to literal Nazis.

I don't want to be judicious and exact about Nazis. I want to freak out and notice when a group starts seeming like Nazis.

So due to the fact that they're probably going to kill us all now that we hesitated too many times, I'll say it at last: it's morally correct to punch people who aren't freaked out about Nazis.

[–] Enkrod@feddit.org 6 points 4 months ago

People who say "they aren't as bad as the Nazis" always only think about the time after 1934 or even 1939. This, right now is the before-time. Of course they aren't as bad as the successful, established, in control Nazis yet. But if you look at the time between 1920 and 1933, when the NSDAP wasn't in power yet, the parallels are terrifying.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca -2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

not helpful. childish acting out, really. i'll agree that it's justifiable to be scared but it's rarely helpful to act scared and hit people because you can't make your point to them. regardless if whether your fucked up morality tells you it's okay, it's still not helpful, it's still clearly about your own emotional needs and not about making the world better.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Your opinion is really not helpful, and the only people you're defending want you dead or subjugated. I'll agree that it's rarely helpful to be violent, but fascists aren't party to any social contract, regardless of your fucked up "pacifism at any cost (to others)" morality. Calling people childish is clearly about your own emotional needs, and not about making the world better.

[–] Guy_Fieris_Hair@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Maybe the biggest reason he won't speak out is because he won't get reelected. Which is scary in itself. But, let's not pretend Pence is some sort of Saint. He is evil too.

[–] beebarfbadger@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

After not having crimed Trump into a second Term, he has to know that the MAGA crowd would rather hang him than let him have any office while they're in power. So if getting elected were his primary concern, making sure Trump is not put into power would be Pence's primary objective. And he's just laying low, not working against Trump, so we can be sure that getting reelected is either not his goal or he's more afraid than he is ambitious.