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I hope we all know this and are just doing it as a bit, but sometimes I do see shit on this website that makes me go “Oh y’all are genuinely just weird prudes”

The “gooner epidemic” is not real, gooning is an incredibly niche kink that very few people engage in.

“Porn addiction” is basically non existent and affects such a small portion of the population as to not be relevant. The idea that most people have in their heads about porn addiction is propaganda made up by evangelicals.

We do not live in an overly-sexually-liberated time. There is not an excess of sexual content or exposure to it.

Most of the time when people talk about “the gooner problem” what they’re actually talking about is a mix of two unrelated things, people living normal sexually liberated lives, and undersocialized young men that don’t know how to interact with people.

Sex is good. We should be having more of it. We should encourage healthy, safe sex featuring whatever kinks you and your partner(s) consent to. Don’t fall for puritan propaganda comrades.

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[–] psychoplantkiller@hexbear.net 12 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

and that's why he's the goat 🐐

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 1 points 1 minute ago

Sex is not bad, nor is being sexually liberated.

However sex and sexuality as it it treated under our current society is highly misogynistic and exploitative.

"Oh stop being a prude" is definitely a phrase uttered to many young women in the entertainment industry to shame her into exploiting her body for capital.

[–] D61@hexbear.net 2 points 28 minutes ago

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[–] dil@hexbear.net 5 points 20 minutes ago

l don't think porn is categorically problematic. I think the content of the porn and the worldview that it espouses can absolutely be harmful, though.

I'd compare it to saying stand-up comedy is good or bad. It's neither. Stand-up comedy is a genre, and within it are smart folks doing great work AND chuds spewing hate.

My problem with porn is that it often objectifies women and primes men to view women as sex objects.

I think many men don't have actual friends that are women, and primarily engage with women romantically or sexually (and tbh, I don't think most men are self-aware enough to distinguish between the two).

The media we consume (porn included) influences our worldview. If men watch porn (or stand-up) that has misogynist undertones and don't have friends that are women as a counterbalance, I think they will trend towards a misogynist worldview.

[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 5 points 1 hour ago

Your cringe non-existent gooner epidemic

My wholesome based stimfap epidemic

[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 2 points 20 minutes ago (1 children)

Some of these comments here really make it seem like the word "gooning" is just the word "dgenercy" rebranded.

[–] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 2 points 19 minutes ago

Honestly half the time that is basically how I see it used everywhere lately

[–] Meltyheartlove@hexbear.net 6 points 1 hour ago

Sex is good. We should be having more of it.

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[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 9 points 2 hours ago

On the one hand porn taught me how to have good sex. When I lost my v-card to my girlfriend she straight up asked me "are you sure you're a virgin" (jokingly since we had good sex together). BUT on the other hand, I've caught myself in the absence of intimacy engaging with porn I wouldn't feel comfortable showing anyone else. So there's for sure a ratchet effect like is common in addiction, to simply say it's not addictive I think is too dismissive.

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 36 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Still upset at the kids for sexualizing the word Goon.

I can no longer call me and my possee the Goon squad

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 5 points 1 hour ago

Here it still means cheap wine

[–] OttoboyEmpire@hexbear.net 20 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

radlib take. sex is great, and people should be having it, and online pornography, which commodifies the most intimate and shared human experiences, and only serves to further atomize and alienate us from each other and ourselves, sucks. it produces less sex and less intimacy; it creates a market which degrades and exploits.

we easily diagnose mindless consumption as bad and deadening of the spirit, but yet people refuse to admit this when it comes to frictionless consumption of sexual gratification. why is this, why is the need to signal that one isn't a prude require an endorsement of gooning?

[–] space_comrade@hexbear.net 11 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

and online pornography, which commodifies the most intimate and shared human experiences, and only serves to further atomize and alienate us from each other and ourselves, sucks.

Pretty sure people would make porn and share it in a communist society too. Not everybody considers sex as this sacred intimate act that needs to be hidden from the rest of the world, some people are just naturally extremely horny.

[–] OttoboyEmpire@hexbear.net 8 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

i don't care about what happens in a liberated society. i care about what happens in a (current) neoliberal, thatcherrite non-society, where everyone is merely individuals, where the collective good is spit on, where the profit motive creates uncaptured externalities which befall those on the losing end of class distinctions. it is in this world wherein online pornography is incentivized, produced and commodified; and it is this one which is reified precisely by this sort of production in particular-- because a world in which you can instantly gratify yourself alone, all the time, in lieu of having to go outside and talk to and then fuck someone else, is one which forgoes the development of constitutive attachments with others, a necessary requirement of community.

if some people are so invariably into consuming porn, i would suggest they opt for capitalism -- though Marx may have allotted for gooning in the morning before fishing at midday and critiquing after dinner, capitalism will surely provide a more varied and variegated porn under the profit motive. all that is holy is profaned, and these people (who, apparently, are NOT the product of their environments, but would be necessarily just, really, irreducibly horny) would be better off there.

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[–] psychoplantkiller@hexbear.net 10 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

First they came for the gooners, and I did not speak up, for I was not a gooner.

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[–] SootySootySoot@hexbear.net 20 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

I think there are super healthy and important conversations that should be had society-wide about more openness to sexuality. I think peoples' problems with porn almost entirely exist because there is so little conversation and openness to it in everyday life. Porn becomes everything a person knows or thinks about sex because it's the only place you learn or talk about it in any way.

I do think it'd be neat if this site had some enclosed space for NSFW chats, but it's also not a priority. If it's a binary choice, I'd prefer it be a creep-free zone.

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