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[–] mhague@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

Mamdani pulled off a surprise victory less than 30 days ago and he's already gaining support.

[–] barkingspiders@infosec.pub 178 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Just read his Address at Madison Square Garden, New York City, October 31, 1936. The whole thing still feels very relevant and is a worthwhile (and not too long) read. The quote that stuck with me today was:

We know now that Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob.

We could use another FDR I think

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 67 points 1 week ago (6 children)

If we got another FDR, I think I would have a heart attack from joy. Someone who will fucking fight for us. Jesus the bar is so low at this point.

[–] bunkyprewster@startrek.website 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

FDR was a member of the ruling class (aristocracy really) and did those things because of a very real fear of socialist revolution given the relatively recent Russian revolution and the ongoing Great Depression.

If we want capitalists to give some ground to working class standard of living, it will be because they are afraid of losing the whole game

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 4 points 6 days ago

I used to want them to give some ground. Now I want us to take it. It's become absolutely clear that they don't just beat us down for advantage, they hate us and want us dead or suffering.

We have the power, but they have us using it to fight each-others. It's time for the people to unify and use our power to tell the wealthy what the new rules are going to be.

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

We could use another FDR I think

It would have to be someone who might be wealthy enough not to care about where to get more campaign funding, but moral enough not to be greedy and silver-spooned.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It wasnt morality that made an oligarch promote social democracy. People forget FDR's last name was Roosevelt.

He'd watched his predecessor send in the tanks to raze a camp of protesters infront of the capitol, and in the previous 20 years saw the Russian Revolution, a failed revolution in Germany, and being old-money, had a broader perspective on keeping his class on top than the short-sighted new money.

FDR wasnt embracing socialism, he was buying guillotine insurance to save capitalism.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

A lot of people are dismissive of Roosevelt simply because he's old money. Socialists dream that he should have gone further left. If he didn't genuinely cared, business leaders would not have tried to coup him. I read somewhere that someone overheard a rich woman call FDR a class traitor. The Bretton Woods Agreement which he had drawn up did not invite any businesses for opinions. And it's not groundbreaking to say that FDR wasn't fully bringing America into socialism. All that shows FDR has only gone as far left as anyone could accept at the time.

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[–] FriskyDingo@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My hope is for pritzker.

He's be the perfect class traitor, but sadly, I don't think he has enough dog in him to be what we need

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[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 91 points 1 week ago (2 children)

he won four times. FOUR! they made a rule that you cant win more than twice because he never would have lost!

[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You do realize he died during his fourth term right

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

he still could win a fifth term!

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Some say he would still be president to this day without that rule.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Roosevelt's bones for prez 2027!

[–] mad_lentil@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 days ago

I mean you could do worse, clearly.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 59 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Watching Mamdani interview Trump voters in NYC really woke me. Tired of all the hateful takes on these people. They want politicians to listen and act and thought Trump would do that. No, they weren't paying attention the first go-round, but Trump got their emotions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7FcVCYqQNs

If you really want to understand Trump voters, and what we need to do to get progressives in office, have a look:

https://www.cracked.com/blog/6-reasons-trumps-rise-that-no-one-talks-about

True now as it was 8 years ago.

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Yup. From the outside, it's been reasonably obvious since 2007: The current system isn't working, and the ones who offer to change things are the ones who will actually get the votes.

This became even more apparent post-covid: Biden offered a return to normalcy, while Trump wanted to "fix everything". You can say what you want about Trump (and I will probably agree with most of it), but he offered something else than the same old neolib system that has failed more and more people every year.

The problem with today's mainstream politicians is that one side tries to return to Obama era "middle ground" policies while the other side can be summed up by this shamelessly stolen comic:

A sensible politician who wants to win an election needs to understand that "the middle ground" no longer means not stepping on toes. The middle ground these days means shaking up the current system to provide basic necessities for those who have been ignored for decades. People turn fascist for the same reason people turn tankie; when you're starving and someone promises all the potatoes you can drink, of course that sounds better than the current situation.

I truly hope Mamdani or someone like him gets to appear as more than "ermagerd scary communist" to the right side, because I'm sure most of those who would insta-hate "The left" actually can get behind a lot of the actual policies once they get beyond the politics.

I'm all for rainbow-rights, eco-friendly living, and diversity, but most peoples priorities are a lot more immediate: putting food in the table. Let's all hope the DNC realizes this.

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[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago (24 children)

But hear me out, let's just give the current racist fascists a chance first.

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[–] ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip 43 points 1 week ago

But you don't understand, in 1992 the Democrats won the Presidency with like 40% of the vote on a message of "Republican but with less bigotry," which proves that Americans love their basic economic message of "fuck you get your own food, shelter, and medical care!"

[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If democrats are successful and get consistently elected, then that means they have to actually do something and run on a platform beyond “I’m not Republican” to not get primaried.

Establishment Dems hate success and progress. Progressives are doing good.

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 32 points 1 week ago (4 children)

honestly i had no idea that FDR was a Muslim.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Dude get this, a rightwing youtuber I follow that uncritically spouts rightwing vomit that I dutifully swallow and regurgitate for other incel babies told me the indigenous people of the US are secretly muslim!

This got me scared enough that I decided to just unquestionably believe it and now I am hiding in my lifted pickup watching Dirty Jobs on repeat to try to calm down, what should I do Grok?

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Hey now, I liked Dirty jobs when I was a kid. Is Mike Rowe a bad guy?

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 7 points 6 days ago

The TV star who jerks off business owners every chance he gets and says worker safety should be third priority is a bad guy.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

If the timing for a show about infrastructure feels political, it is. Democrats are trying to pass a trillion-dollar public works package, the debates around which have often devolved into arguments about the definition of the term infrastructure. It’s clear which camp How America Works falls into. Rowe recently told Maria Bartiromo that the show’s goal was to remind Americans of “what infrastructure really is.” Six episodes in, that includes lumber, oil, waste, electricity, fish, and, somewhat oddly, entertainment. While no one would argue with the inclusion of landfills and the Hoover Dam as critical infrastructure, many of the episodes, like one on the Circus Circus Hotel and Casino (owned by Trump Hotels business partner Phil Ruffin), read as pro-business propaganda. Add in the episode’s repeated references to “mandates,” but never the coronavirus itself, and you get messaging that’s perfectly in step with the network that airs it.

https://newrepublic.com/article/164230/mike-rowe-dirty-jobs-how-america-works

I mean, yes... has he been accused of crimes? Not as far as I know but yes absolutely Mike Rowe is a bad person.

[–] mad_lentil@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago
[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

grok: sounds like you got woke in your blood, you should do meth about it

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[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Remember how FDR got reelected so many times they amended the constitution after he died to keep presidents to two terms?

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[–] JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago

“Oh, so you’re here to take my picture. Should I smile or someth–“

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Democratic leaders are largely useless, if not outright cowards, cheats, and/or frauds*

There, FTFY.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

If FDR were alive today, Richie Torries would make it his life's goal to tip him out of his wheelchair.

[–] ToadOfHypnosis@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It really hurts the money politicians make in political contributions and perks.

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Am Democrat

Am not terrified

All criticisms of said Democrat I have seen are of his opinion on Israel, which also differ from the example here.

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