It seems that what was available at https://dubvee.org/post/3788765 is available at https://kbin.earth/m/announcements@dubvee.org/t/1605451/Shutting-Down-on-July-31-This-fediverse-experiment-was-a still.
this post was submitted on 11 Jul 2025
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Sorry not to hijack, but I’m in the process of adding PieFed support to my Lemmy client, if you’re looking for a new home. You can try it out at blorpblorp.xyz. I have a lot of work to do before I can live up to these more mature clients like Tesseract. Tesseract had some really nice media embeds that I’m missing.
This project has been discontinued and the repo archived. I am done with Lemmy, the Fediverse as a whole, and have no desire to continue developing for the platform or (especially) the demographic thereof.
Wow, what the heck happened? Do we know the dev's lemmy username for any clues?
(especially) the demographic thereof
Yeah! Fuck the demographic! Still beats reddit nonsense.
It's a combination of a burn out and a close friend (also moderator of the 30rock community on Dubvee) ending up in a coma, it seems.
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Yes, I posted his message in my post's body. https://dubvee.org/post/3788765
Thanks for that context.
The specific "burned out" is a common killer among folks that try this: community management
"Well, two years in, and I cannot say this place is any better, just differently bad if not worse. Too many people here seem to think that because it's not "corpo social media" that anything goes, and boy do some people really run with that."
I can't say I blame them. People can be horrible. Managing a community also means managing the worst of people. I had a former employer that did community management of a dating site. The level of mental trauma the front line workers endured was more than I could imagine. This is also why I completely understand instance admins that follow an aggressive blocking/banning approach. Beehaw put up tall walls and defederated aplenty. Blahaj.zone actively bans based upon user activity that is even on other unrelated instances. I can't fault either of these approaches because the alternative is dealing with the worst users en masse.
I hope that instance owner/manager gets some of that much deserved rest.
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The average Lemming has the nuance of a wrecking ball
He’s not wrong lol. I can imagine how much worse it is as an admin. It’s unfortunate that Tesseract is going down with the ship. I remember I was among the first to provide feedback when he first posted it on lemmy.
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Considering this is a Svelte project, it probably wouldn’t be too hard for me to fork (I’m a Svelte and SvelteKit dev). I’d definitely rewrite the UI, cause the current UI is… unpolished.
How much support could I expect to fork this project? Is there anyone that would be willing to help?
Better contribute to Photon, which Tesseract was forked from originally.
Tesseract is very much different from Proton by now however
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That's a real shame, and a huge loss.
Friendly reminder that the only way lemmy can be successful is if we create a culture that is enjoyable to be a part of. It sounds like his time here was not so positive, and that's deeply saddening.
I wish him the best with his future endeavors
Much more important than the enjoyable culture is the material aspect - how much work each developer has to do. Nice vibes help delay burnout but rarely eliminate it. Or they let it happen with a smile on the face.
Pay the developers instead, so they can reduce hours worked elsewhere, if you can. Or contribute code, if you can. This isn't aimed at you personally, but anyone reading. I can't contribute code but I can pay so I do that.
That's incredibly important too! I think people would be hesitant to work for even decent donations if people are assholes, but you're 100% right. I guess it really comes down to appreciating the people around you
You should appreciate the humans that create this social space by being here and being social, and appreciate the people who create this social space by building the space itself
Thank you for making that point, people being paid makes a huge difference.
The developer in question specifically declined remuneration - he enjoyed his day job and did not want to quit it, and just was happy to share both his code (Tesseract) and instance (dubvee.org) with anyone, completely free of charge.
https://dubvee.org/about#donations :
I built Tesseract in my spare time as a hobby, learning excercise for Svelte, and to address my own personal annoyances with Lemmy and other Lemmy UIs. That said, I do not feel the need to accept donations for its development.
However, if you really want to donate, please consider donating to one of the following:
Xylight: They are the author of Photon from which Tesseract was forked who also did a lot of the heavy lifting for much of the core. While I've replaced a lot of it, none of my work would have been possible without theirs.
Thank you for that additional information!
rip to the best client 🥹 and thank you for everything you've done PTZ.
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