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Why archaeologists must speak up for Gaza (www.aljazeera.com)

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[–] Therealgoodjanet@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Remember when ISIS did this? People and organizations were tripping over each other to condemn them, but when Israel does it there’s silence.

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 3 points 1 year ago

Yes and when the Nazis did it tons of resources were mobilized to protect or evacuate the cultural artefacts.

[–] arymandias@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because more than 30 000 civilians have been killed and more than a million people are experiencing a famine?

[–] jaagruk@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

30000 Yemen Shia?

[+] thantik@lemmy.world -7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is pretty hypocritical coming from Aljazeera. Most Muslim faiths destroy archaeological relics from other religions. We've had almost entire mountainsides blown up, destroying artifacts that went back millennia. For them to now go "Muh relics! Archaeology!"...yeah. Gonna fall on deaf ears.

I mean, don't get me wrong -- I don't think their stuff should be destroyed either, I'm just saying they aren't exactly arguing from a strong point.

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Like every other religion, Muslims are not a monolith...

Al Jazeera hasn't destroyed any archaeological sites.

Meanwhile, Israel has destroyed hundreds of them

[–] jaagruk@mander.xyz 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

But al Jazeera is saying not to destroy MUSLIM sites.

What Muslims did to iran,Pakistan etc etc.

(U can downvote if u do not have some points)

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Muslim cultural sites are the ones being targeted and destroyed in Palestine. It's true ISIS has destroyed Muslim sites; they also certainly don't represent the vast majority of Muslims in any respect. You think Al Jazeera is an advocate for Christian or Jewish sites getting destroyed? Because I've never seen them be.

[–] jaagruk@mander.xyz -2 points 1 year ago

U need to learn 1:use of punctuation marks and 2:basic grammar

[–] Zane@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are saying that in this particular opinion piece focussed on this particular topic, yes. It's disingenuous to argue they only speak out for Muslim heritage when you could easily search their site and find many reports and commentaries on the destruction of historical sites all over the world.

[–] jaagruk@mander.xyz 0 points 1 year ago

PARTICULAR TOPICCCCCCC ?

[–] thantik@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Israel destroying them, Muslims (of any sect) destroying them...both bad.

And Aljazeera has close ties with the Qatar/Saudi governments, which are definitely in the territories where this happens.

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What's your point here, Israel is deliberately erasing the history of Palestinians.

“Libraries serve as cultural repositories, and attacking them is an attack on cultural heritage. What is happening now is a war crime. It goes against the first Hague convention,” Sabrine said. “Israel is trying to erase the connection of the people with their land. It’s very clear and intentional. Gaza’s heritage is part of its people, it’s history and their connection.”

Vanishing Ink: Palestinian Culture Under Threat in Gaza

[–] thantik@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Did you miss the part where I said

I mean, don't get me wrong -- I don't think their stuff should be destroyed either, I'm just saying they aren't exactly arguing from a strong point.

I am not condoning this shit. I'm saying Aljazeera is a hypocrite. They are the propaganda arm of Saudis.

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

AJ is still a credible news source. Do you think Al Jazeera is pro Christian or Jewish sites getting destroyed? Because I've never seen them be. So how are they hypocritical by reporting on Israel destroying hundreds of cultural sites in Palestine?

From MBFC:

In review, Al Jazeera reports news with minimally loaded wording in their headlines and articles such as this: UN approves team to monitor ceasefire in Yemen’s port city, and Erdogan delays Syria operation, welcomes US troop withdrawal. Both of these articles are properly sourced from credible news agencies. When reporting USA news, there is minimal bias in reporting such as this: Pentagon chief Mattis quits, cites policy differences with Trump. In general, straight news reporting has a minimal bias; however, as a state-funded news agency, Al Jazeera is typically not critical of Qatar.

Al Jazeera also has an opinion page that exhibits significant bias against Israel. In this article, the author uses highly negative emotional words as evidenced by this quote: “Europe is increasingly sharing Israel’s racist approach to border security and adopting its deadly technologies.” This article, however, is properly sourced from credible media outlets. Another article, “How many more ways can Israel sentence Palestinians to death?” also uses loaded language that is negative toward Israel. Further, the opinion page does not favor US President Donald Trump through this article: ‘Barbed wire-plus‘: Borders know no love. In general, opinion pieces are routinely biased against Israel and right-wing ideologies.

And the two articles that failed fact checks were an article about India and an article about South Africa both in 2018.

Here's another metric for bias and credibility

https://adfontesmedia.com/al-jazeera-bias-and-reliability/

Ad Fontes Media rates Al Jazeera (website) in the Skews Left category of bias and as Reliable, Analysis/Fact Reporting in terms of reliability.

When it comes to Qatar, India, or Africa then AJ is not a good source to turn to. I think it's fair to not go to AJ for any news on Saudi Arabia, but these AJ reports are about Palestine from on-the-ground reporting.