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[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

this is why she got "admiraled"-- so she'd stop fucking with the timeline.

in at least 1 alternate universe, it didn't work, which is how we ended up in this one.

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

We should be so lucky that's all she did. Most of the time it goes the other way.

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

well, let's not forget that she also tore a hole in the universe just to go to war with Species 8472 on behalf of the Borg... so, yeah...

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Of course, of course. I was only speaking from the position of admirals tending to become badmirals. All Admiral Janeway did was violate the Temporal Prime Directive in order to use future tech to upgrade Voyager's defensive/offensive systems and commit genocide with a deadly neurolytic pathogen just to get everyone home several years earlier.

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Janeway defeated the Borg by being such an inconstant hypocrite, they simply couldn't adapt.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Starfleet spent all those resources randomizing their phaser frequency... Who would expect the real path to victory was randomizing their captains' personalities!

[–] StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 2 points 5 months ago

I take it you haven’t seen Prodigy yet.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Did Janeway really have over 17 separate violations, or was she going for quality over quantity?

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Haven't really done the math, but she certainly made her choices count. You can probably tack on a couple dozen "good decisions" that occurred during "Year of Hell" that got wiped out of existence.

[–] StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

As Hologram Janeway says in Prodigy, “We’ve only just begun.”

Because Prodigy had to be about Janeway and more timey-wimey stuff.

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

And more shenanigans including the real deal admiral soon! July 1st, last I heard!

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Voyager had only been on the air for a few years. Ironically, they couldn't predict how much time fuckery would be in the later seasons.

Hilariously, Trials and Tribble-ations aired two days before the Future's End two-parter.