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[–] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 216 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Wow! I can't believe she didn't intentionally make the obviously worse choice. Unironically. This is entirely new territory as a democratic voter!

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 53 points 3 months ago (5 children)

I see it as purposeful messaging that they're willing to change and be more progressive, if that's what we want. Now we need to prove them right and get out to the polls.

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[–] The_v@lemmy.world 41 points 3 months ago (1 children)

A very strategic pick.

His wiki page reads like a check-list to attract the republican women voters.

White

Male

From Nebraska

Veteran.

Supports Abortion rights.

"Think of the children" (both him and his wife were teachers).

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 months ago

Cat and Dog Dad too!

(I believe the cat has crossed the Rainbow Bridge but the energy remains)

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 28 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (10 children)

Penny for your thoughts? Pennsylvanians seem to be big fans of Shapiro, though I've not heard of Walz before just now.

[–] cogman@lemmy.world 84 points 3 months ago

Shapiro is a HUGE Zionist and has had problems in his office with sexual harassment (not by him, but his aides). With some saying he helped to cover it up.

He may play well in Pennsylvania, he does not play well in many states like Michigan and would not play well with the youth vote. The only real reason to pick Shapiro is for AIPAC money.

[–] APassenger@lemmy.world 68 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Shapiro has an extended history of being quite sympathetic to Israel to the point of problematic statements and treating anti-genocide protest as something it's not.

Walz has none of that baggage and seems to care about people. He's a far better (from what I know) person to be one heartbeat away from the presidency.

He should campaign well and I expect him to keep hitting Trump. Vance will self-own without too much assistance. Punching up will be a great look.

If Walz is her pick, I'm giddy.

I'm fairly far left and I want human rights for all. I don't understand why the party of small government needs to know my internet habits, what happens behind closed doors, what books are read, or why specific medical care (gender affirning or reproductive) is sought.

We're people. The republican nanny state can fuck right off.

That said, I'd like a better safety net. The nation has the money for it if we had a rational tax code. This combination on the ticket gives me hope that all the above are priorities.

I do NOT want Shapiro except as a calculated play for Pennsylvania. I have 0 interest in a war to defend Israel's right to be 1940s Germany.

[–] USSMojave@startrek.website 41 points 3 months ago

Walz also coined the "weird" label for Republicans we're using now

[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 17 points 3 months ago

Shapiro's approval rating is fine, but not high enough that the speculation of him guaranteeing Pennsylvania is justified.

On the other hand, he comes with a lot of baggage - some justified and some not so much - but all of which are terrible optics. He is an incredibly vulnerable pick whose only merit is the vain hope of delivering PA.

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[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I genuinely did not see that coming. I feel strange.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's hope. You're feeling hope. Kind of tingles, right?

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago (6 children)

I hoped that Biden dropping out heralded a tipping point away from the arrogant, conservative old guard that was stifling progress and toward a more progressive future.

I'm more hopeful still. I missed hope.

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[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

I woke up this morning, figured she'd have made her VP pick public by now (I'm on the West Coast), checked my phone and said "Not Shapiro?! Bahahahahaha!"

And I laughed and laughed and laughed. F Shapiro! Pleasantly surprised she picked Walz.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 199 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

That's a surprisingly progressive ticket. Who would have guessed that the 2024 election would be between a lawyer & School Teacher (before politics at least) and a dementia riddled real estate mobster and a couch fucker

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 56 points 3 months ago (2 children)

couch fucker

Squirrely Dan: "Allegedly."

[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 32 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Squirrely Dan: Allegedlys he fucks thems couches.

[–] JaymesRS@literature.cafe 22 points 3 months ago (3 children)

That’s why they won’t let him campaign in Davenport, Iowa

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[–] Monstrosity@lemm.ee 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

"Remember kids, even rumors can be hurtful"
~Richard Gere

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 43 points 3 months ago (3 children)

a progressive ticket with one of the post popular governors in the country who was able to be a governor because he was relatable and popular enough with rural republican minnesotans

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

It makes sense. He was big on in person campaigning. I've shook his hand and chatted with him, my dad had lunch with him a while back.

Hes a no-nonsense guy. He's from Nebraska, retired Command Sergeant Major, taught in a small town, and listening to him reminds me of my grandfather who was a very popular educator and farmer in the midwest. It's hard not to like him.

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[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago

Dems have been sneaky progressive since like 2018. It's been a real breath of fresh air. With the Biden Administration's achievements and policy goals basically being a leftist's wishlist, I'm excited to see what a Harris Administration can do on top of that.

[–] Geek_King@lemmy.world 126 points 3 months ago (33 children)

Oh hot damn I'm so relieved. I was pretty worried she'd go with Shapiro, and then have a solid argument against her based on his service in the Israeli military. After seeing multiple people on lemmy say "They shouldn't choose Tim Walz.... we want to keep him for our selves", that seemed like a solid endorsement by his constituents. Then Bernie endorsed the guy, so I feel pretty damn good about this selection if it proves to be true.

[–] dcpDarkMatter@kbin.earth 67 points 3 months ago (2 children)

As a Minnesotan, I'm saddened for our potential loss. But as an American, I'm happy that the rest of the country will get to benefit from him.

[–] JaymesRS@literature.cafe 20 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Same, but I have a feeling Peggy Flanagan will do well in his stead. She was part of the groups that used to coach others at the Wellstone Political training camps that Tim Walz went to before he started running.

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[–] USSMojave@startrek.website 76 points 3 months ago (2 children)

TO THE WINDOWZ TO THE WALZ

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 22 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The sweat drip down my balls!

Please let this be a campaign thing.

[–] worldwidewave@lemmy.world 43 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is going to be one entertaining VP debate

[–] triptrapper@lemmy.world 32 points 3 months ago (2 children)

He's going to talk to Vance like a child.

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Vance will make threats and insults while the progressive sighs in response and explains how the world works

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 11 points 3 months ago

Nah. I'm hoping he just says "you're a child, and a pretty weird one too".

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 3 months ago

hell yes about time we had a cat daddy in the white house <3

[–] BertramDitore@lemmy.world 30 points 3 months ago (1 children)

He was coincidentally the keynote speaker at the Esri UC a few weeks ago (a big GIS conference/industry trade show), he was surprisingly entertaining and thoughtful. He used to be a geography teacher, and you could really tell by how well he connected with people. That was my first exposure to him, and I was genuinely impressed.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 months ago

Wait what, he knows GEOGRAPHY? What kinda 'merican does he think he is?

No worries, my cat says I'm to vote Harris-Walz and D down the ticket, and she knows best.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Wow, color me impressed! This is not the old guard Democrat strategy, and I am so here for it.

[–] mortemtyrannis@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 months ago

Turns out brushing real close to full blown fascism causes some changes.

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 3 months ago

The Democratic party is dodging the rakes like Neo, It's a rare thing.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

Thank God. I can't believe this actually came down to, "one of the most popular Democrats in the country vs. the worst possible choice for every state except PA (debatably)."

[–] APassenger@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

I so want this to be true. I'd lose my mind and donate more.

Is she like a real politician who cares about peolple? I'd love to see it.

[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago (2 children)
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[–] archomrade@midwest.social 15 points 3 months ago

RIP to the zionist bozo Shapiro

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

Excellent choice!

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

As much as I would have liked to see her make a strategic pick who could help her win an at risk state like Arizona or Pennsylvania, he has less baggage than Shapiro.

I think too, there's strategy in a non-strategic pick. The cynics would have said "Oh, she only picked Shapiro because she needs Pennsylvania" or "Yeah, yeah, he's an astronaut, but she wants Arizona".

In this case? I think he's going to be a delight to watch. He'll devastate Vance in the debate.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

Looking forward to his pro tips. Need some help with my mower.

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