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I got an email about support ending in October 2025; isn't this still extremely early? Aren't they usually about two or three versions of windows down the line before they end updates?

I don't want windows 11 (and no I don't want Linux either, knock it off); this is ridiculous.

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and no I don't want Linux either, knock it off

Sweetie, you need your Linux medicine πŸ’Š... Take the fucking pill or it'll be injections!!! marx-angry

[–] hello_hello@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

no I don't want Linux either, knock it off

That's fine, all you have to do is go is copy paste this command line prompt and download this obscure third-party software and edit this registry entry and toggle these boxes and turn off updates and download this specific unlisted windows version and install it from scratch and disable this thing in your BIOS and set a custom group policy for your user and...

[–] TheDoctor@hexbear.net 43 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't want Linux either, knock it off

[–] Dirt_Possum@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Ikr? It's like "I don't want to eat this pile of dogshit, but I also don't want to eat any of this actual food you're offering to me for free either, knock it off!" Ok then, I guess you can just starve, your choice. shrug-outta-hecks

[–] hello_hello@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Reminds me of the "Linux users are the vegans of software"

Yes, vegans are always right penguin-love

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[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 41 points 2 days ago

I don't want windows 11

Hey, you should try Lβ€”

(and no I don't want Linux either, knock it off)

Pouting anime girl. Specifically Sunao Nako in the second episode of Hitoribocchi no Marumaruseikatsu.

[–] iByteABit@hexbear.net 45 points 2 days ago (1 children)

stalin-shining You WILL use the people's OS, proprietary software belongs in museums libretion

[–] TheVelvetGentleman@hexbear.net 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The only thing that stops me from using Linux is that I'll miss out on the satisfaction of stealing it.

[–] TheDoctor@hexbear.net 19 points 2 days ago

Redhat charges for support. Steal that.

[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Without Win 11 or Linux (you really should... no no nevermind...) I think you fall into the category of "fucked." macOS exists but it's hugely overpriced (of course I won't argue their hardware is usually very high end, feels and look great. Software is ok, although I never feel like macs are "built to do anything" other than iMessage (which I have a phone for) and browse the internet in a visually appealing way (which isn't worth $2K). I also refuse to buy one for access to full Apple development. That's monopolistic bullshit that should've been crushed a decade ago.

Anyway, Win 11 and 10 are effectively the same. I don't know why people started acting like 11 was so dogshit and 10 was fine. They're both kinda dogshit. Overbloated, poorly optimized dogshit. MS crammed BING! into every corner of it along with their "straight to the NSA" cloud shit which I would never use even if it was 100TB for free. Ok, maybe then...

[–] Chronicon@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

people always retcon versions of windows into being fine or even "good" as they gain market share and then get discontinued in favor of an even more enshittified version. The trajectory is mostly just towards bad, but people hyperfocus on relatively small annoyances in the new version, or performance issues when they updated their old PC to the new version, and then deem the new one as absolute trash. holdouts will skip a version but then eventually be forced to upgrade, and the consensus ends up being "every other windows release is dogshit" but really they're all bad, it's just frog-in-boiling-pot strategy from microsoft slowly making the shitty parts more intrusive and locked down and spying more.

Linux otoh despite occasional blunders here and there by different distros and developers of software components is mostly trending upwards

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[–] VARXBLE@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Y'all "I don't want to learn Linux, it is hard :(" people are about to either learn that the reading isn't actually very hard, or that the hoops you'll have to continuously jump through to make shitty Windows barely functional is actually hard AND incredibly annoying.

There are only two paths from here. Good luck

Oh yeaaah, it’s Linux time 😎

[–] git@hexbear.net 20 points 2 days ago

Yes, MS is getting more aggressive in their end of life terms for the general availability channel releases (Home, Pro). Use Windows 10 LTSC (EOL 2027) or Windows 10 IoT LTSC (EOL 2032) to avoid this.

Download the one you want from here: https://massgrave.dev/windows_ltsc_links

Optionally, you can customise the install media using NTLite if you want to automate customisation/debloating. Test in a VM first before deploying.

Once installed, activate using https://massgrave.dev/ using the HWID option.

[–] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If there's one thing capitalism loves almost as much as slavery, it's planned obsolescence

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[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, and yeah it's ridiculous, especially when there are a decent chunk of computers that can't upgrade. Death to Bill Gates, Death to Microsoft.

[–] The_Grinch@hexbear.net 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You can install 11 with a quick registry edit. I've been running 11 for over a year this way on a ryzen 1600 (not even an old CPU) without any issue. This proves they're absolutely going to bat for the likes of netflix and disney+ in their perpetually losing war against piracy. Like I've never not been able to acquire an episode of a popular show on a streaming service within 24 hours, so what's all this even for?

[–] TheBroodian@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago

It's Microsoft's continual march in the direction of adding more ads, and more spyware into Windows.

[–] Big_Bob@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Even though i have no gaemz, my video card drivers are barely working, my RAM randomly shits itself, and I smell burning whenever I charge my headphones through the USB, I still laugh at windows users desperately cling to their spyware OS. Yeah, enjoy your video games.

Sure, the closest thing to entertainment Linux offers is firing up Gimp and hoping it doesn't spontaneously combust your hard drive, but at least I'm free!

[–] hello_hello@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago (4 children)

At least we got gimp 3 before GTA VI kitty-cri

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[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 19 points 2 days ago

Windows 7 was so good, the fact they came out with windows 10 shortly after, and then windows 11 shortly after that one and decided yup, 11 is the one we want to have longevity with keeps Microshit winning. What a great company.

[–] tombruzzo@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My brother has to reformat a laptop because the is petition isn't big enough for windows 11, and it's 80 gigs

But how else will Windows 11 mine crypto in the background?

[–] someone@hexbear.net 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't want windows 11 (and no I don't want Linux either, knock it off); this is ridiculous.

Then get ready to pay the Apple Tax.

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago

The Apple tax is more than made up for with all the bullshit you have to put with on Winblow

[–] RION@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Windows Vista, 7, 8, and 8.1 all had 10-year support spans like this, it's just the fact that Microsoft has slowed down releases that makes it feel shorter. You can chill on W10 LTSC until 2032 if you really want. W11 Pro will allow you to get rid of most annoying things via group policy.

[–] ChicagoCommunist@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If I had to go back to windows, LTSC or whatever equivalent would be the only way. Not gonna catch me using an "operating system" that reminds me of candy crush every time I open the start menu

Even then it's wild how feature-rich KDE plasma is ottb comparatively.

[–] someone@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago

Even then it's wild how feature-rich KDE plasma is ottb comparatively.

The only thing more pleasant than KDE's features and stability these days is how resource-efficient it is. We are well beyond the bad old KDE4 days where bugs and crashes were the norm and it was a RAM and CPU hog. Modern KDE is just a joy to use.

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago

Download windows 9

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago

I wish I could migrate our whole network to Linux but sadly that's not how it works. I dread deploying windows 11.

[–] homhom9000@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago

My laptop has windows 10 but is so old that whenever the automatic update to windows 11 pops up, it's determined to be too old to install. That hasn't stopped the auto update pop ups however

[–] roux@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You should try FreeBSD /jk

I think you can shut off updates right before EoL on Windows 10 and avoid upgrading to 11 but over time your system will probably gradually become less secure. If you use it in a safe manner, I think you should mostly be ok though. You might start seeing support end for some of the software you use but that probably won't be any time soon.

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