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[–] megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 hours ago

It’s so bizarre to see this discussion play out on the basis of “health”

Because there is a legitimate discussion to be had about the economics of how milk pasteurization requirements have affected local dairy farms. How the unsanitary conditions of industrial scale milk production have made it a necessity. How marketing and corporate interests have shifted consumption patterns.

And yet these fucking dipshits have turned this in to “pasteurized milk personally harms you!” In grifter circles.

How screwed are we that we can’t talk about the complexities of how corporate farming practices have effected our food supplies with out couching it in terms of “health food”.

I cannot express how much I hate the term “health food”. There is no such fucking thing as a “health food”.

It makes me want to rip my hair out when these topics come up.

[–] frank@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

And I'm and American in Colombia where they pasteurize the milk to the point where it is stored at room temperature.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 17 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

I've seen some shit claiming pasteurization is harmful and I just have to ask if the people who believe that know what pasteurization even is, because how the hell does boiling it make it harmful? Shit... If boiling milk makes it toxic, you better stay away from cheese. And a lot of baked goods. Creamy soups. Pasta dishes. Etc.

[–] watersnipje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 7 hours ago

This is the whole “gluten is poison” (for people not actually intolerant to gluten) all over again. Those people also had no idea that it was just wheat protein.

[–] Luccus@feddit.org 13 points 10 hours ago

Not even fully boiling. To quote Wikipedia, because I'm lazy:

The liquid moves in a controlled, continuous flow while subjected to temperatures of 71.5 °C (160 °F) to 74 °C (165 °F), for about 15 to 30 seconds, followed by rapid cooling to between 4 °C (39.2 °F) and 5.5 °C (42 °F).

Literally 30 seconds of "pretty hot". And people are risking serious illness, even death, over some mythical beliefs about how nutrition works.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 8 points 11 hours ago (12 children)

There is a way. Just mix it with equal parts hard liquor.

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago

I heard bleach works good too.

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[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 14 points 14 hours ago

Food safety is communism!

[–] GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 32 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Damn.
I didn't have "Raw Milk encouraged by the US govt. causes second pandemic in 5 years" on my bingo card for 2025.

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 hours ago

I'm not ready for Moovid...

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 22 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

For the other non scientists here is a good article explaining what "raw milk" is. https://www.uclahealth.org/news/article/dangers-raw-milk-arise-bacteria

TLDR: they boil milk to nuke bacteria, "raw milk" is what they call milk that hasn't had that happen and is dangerous, especially considering recent events.

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[–] beebarfbadger@lemmy.world 16 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe ingest it and then use UV light or inject bleach. I hear Ivermectin helps against everything.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 hours ago

Ugh my wife's step-sisters husband is a pharmacist. His body is riddled with tumors but he swears the ivermectin and supplements are what's fighting the cancer. Not the chemo. Nope. That's promoting the cancer.

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