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The European Union wants elderly people (70+) to undergo medical tests from now on to prove that they are still capable of driving a car every five years. However, the proposal has been met with a lot of criticism.

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[–] eggshappedegg@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Should be every two years really. Then how about every 5 years for everybody else.

[–] DzikiMarian@lemmy.sdf.org -2 points 1 year ago

Exactly what do you expect to affect most of the people in their twenties or thirties in 5 years, that would justify this massive expense of time and money?

Ceuld never work in the U.S. where there is terrible public transit. People would just starve in their homes.

[–] Sheltac@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Frankly this is one of those things I kinda hope self-driving cars will help fix, given that we’ll just never have decent public transport.

Over 65? Here’s a test every year. Can’t drive to a high standard? Licence invalidated, go get yourself a car that drives itself, which at this point should be going for a comparable price.

[–] Panamanap@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you're over 65 I don't think actually driving is the only thing stopping you from getting around. Imagine your grandparents with a VCR and then imagine them using on of them "Google thingies" to control a car.

[–] Sheltac@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’d expect it to be similar to setting up a phone for my grandma. Pre-load the addresses they’d usually get to, and have the car call someone in the family for help if anything goes out of the ordinary.

I don’t really see a problem with that side of things, tbh.

What you're ignoring in this hypothetical situation however, is that self driving cars won't be 'self driving' for long long time.

Level 5, fully automated vehicles (where the driver can literally be asleep, and doesn't have to pay attention or intervene) are a long way from being implemented onto public roads. Ill be surprised if we see level 5 automated vehicles in 2040 like many manufacturers seem to believe.

[–] Panamanap@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Not every old person has someone who would help them with that. May not be your experience, but it's true nevertheless.

Nevermind that it's not a solution for people who can't get into a car (people in wheelchairs for example).

A self driving car then basically offers the same service as a taxi. And with a taxi you do not have to take care of the car (repairs, registration, etc).

[–] veganpizza69@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Should be every 2 years - for everyone with a license.

[–] swancheez@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

That seems beyond excessive.

[–] JesusChrist@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

That seems expensive to enforce. It would make more sense for people to be tested every 10 years till age 68, every 5 years till age 78, then every two years after that.

[–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

It shouldn't. That's a monumental administrative task. My gov can barley keep up with issuing passports. Imagine having to reissue drivers licenses with a check up every 2 years for everyone...

[–] OnlineAccount150@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I support this. Cognitive function obviously declines as you get older. And elderly people have been lucky enough to live their lives. What if an 80 year old goes out driving, is quite infirm or easily distracted, and kills a 20 year old driver? That 20 year old has the chance to live stolen from them, while the 80 year old already got to live their life.

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

In Germany he'll get a few month license suspension and pay a fine of a couple hundred to a thousand euros.

Every other month there is news of an elderly drover killing someone under gross violation of traffic laws, e.g. driving on the wrong side of the road, accessing one way lanes from the other side, speeding, crossing red lights etc. Then the court rules that granny is seriously sorry, but sze explained that she needs the car, so out and about again. Doesnt matter if she already killed people in a traggic accident that was 100% her fault.

[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Finally some EU law that makes sense.

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[–] Novman@feddit.it -1 points 1 year ago

The retiring age will be 70, we have an huge gap between young and old generation numbers and now this. A lot of old people in the future will need to work and/or will be have little safety net. Think about that.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only every 5? JFC remind me to never go anywhere near European roads.

[–] Ooops@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Sure.... those stupid Europeans and their lacking road safety. Oh, wait...

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