RedSailsFan

I think that's interesting because a lot of people take the opposite position -- that people who consume this sort of thing and say it should be banned are hypocrites who can be dismissed

yes i think if you are trying to convince someone that these games should be banned i think revealing the fact that you have fondly engaged with them in the past is a huge error lol exactly for that reason. its sort of similar to people outwardly breaking BDS imo. no one really needs to know your fucked up kinks, and no one needs to know that you think BDS is stupid. the much more important thing is that you dont lead other people down this path than anything else, idk if that makes any sense. im not a huge fan of the debatebro "fallacy" shit but the hypocrite fallacy is really useful to consider here too, tons of people give good advice/advocate for something while being "hypocrites"

i think the biggest issue is how much can you actually trust someone who makes such a relatively meaningless statement on this issue on an online forum where all our comment mean next to nothing anyways? i seriously doubt people like i described would admit to this kind of thing in any sort of context outside of a relatively anonymous forum like this, but it's also really easy to pretend as if you "support" the banning of these games but actively put money in their patreon or whatever.

My whole point is that I don't appreciate the creeps who like this sadistic, exploitative sort of stuff

i dont disagree. to better clarify my own position, it's moreso that i dont want to try and claim to know random strangers' hearts based off their kinks, which i mostly find weird anyways. i dont think its that far fetched for someone to find something like this titillating for a more innocuous reason (eg. just the taboo of it) but also recognize the horror of it. again, however, i think their position on whether or not it should be banned in public works to be illuminating if that makes any sense (i.e. i find it a lot more sus for someone to be very upset about these games being banned as compared to someone admitting they have played and enjoyed this kind of game but support a ban if that makes any kind of sense.)

There's a huge difference between erotica (etc.) that either recognizes the other as human or just objectifies them in a way that is unconcerned with their view, versus actively reveling in their suffering and subjugation. That's it.

i agree here 100% btw, i maybe am just more lenient about the morals/intentions of someone who likes this kind of content.

Maybe most importantly, though I would still put a little fault on the consumer here if you asked me, fault doesn't actually matter, what matters is what creates a better world, and here that involves heavily prioritizing cracking down on distribution, rather than attacking the creeps buying it.

most importantly seems to contradict (eg. "fundamental issue") the rest of the comment :3

i believe what you mean is that it's something that shouldnt be left unaddressed and that you dont want to totally let creeps off the hook. ig i should say im ace and i find pretty much all porn hard to understand, even the most "normal" porn so the gap between someone who likes something really fucked up and "vanilla" porn isnt as big as i imagine it is to the average allo? like, i feel like it's very possible to just like the taboo of a game like this without being a creep, find hot whatever you find hot, i think all sex stuff is weird but if you do like some taboo like these games (without desiring to be a r---pist ofc) you should not complain about them being banned and what not

fair enough wasnt trying to accuse you of it sorry lol.

also, i should say i dont really judge anyone who plays even one of these porn games, even the really questionable/bad ones, i just think there's too much potential for abuse and it feeds into the omnipresent misogyny in society so they need to be banned. i actually put more responsibility onto the ones who make these games than the consumers tbh.

i dont play porn games so im not really sure what LonaRPG is, but i would support banning any game that presents it like you described also

i think a game from the perspective of the r---ist is much more concerning and what needs to be banned, im unsure which 389aaa is referring to

my 2 cents: hate that this is happening because some weirdo conservative group pressured payment processors and those payment processors pressured steam, because i dont like conservatives or especially companies controlling speech/expression. however i am anti-free speech tbh so these kinds of games should absolutely be banned, i just want a socialist government doing it lol

https://www.chess.com/blog/erik/how-i-got-the-chess-com-domain-name

TL;DR - I got the Chess.com domain name out of bankruptcy for $55,000 in 2005

an eye watering sum presumably lol

you should point this out in the headline or in the post body then, my original impression was that you were saying they are calling others "bots" or something like that

the NYPD is literally funded like an army they would outright just kill him if he tried this

what exactly is the issue here? the article is complaining about DDOS attacks from botnets and LLM scrapers, seems very reasonable to me