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If you have to resort to browsing the web with a TUI every time you're dropped into a tty then you really should think about using a different distro.

That's a weird statement. Why? I browse the web frequently from terminals and the console. If you need a GUI so badly you have to boot from a live USB to answer questions, that's you. I use live USBs on the rare occasion I screw up my boot loader, like when I swapped hard drives and didn't catch all of the places device block IDs are referenced in the boot process.

Anyway, it's weird to argue both that Arch Linux users should be expert shell users, but also that they should use a different distro if they're capable of using Linux entirely without a GUI.

Several Arch-based distros are blurring the line between the self-rarified progenators of the "I use Arch, BTW" meme and non-technical users, by making it easier to install and maintain Arch. I absolutely agree that what these forks do is not the responsibility of core Arch, but I do expect a modicum of effort, the bare consideration to not intentionally making things harder for users than they need to be; to avoid actively breaking systems, where they can.

A release note is a sloppy answer when it's almost trivial to avoid causing the breakage in the first place.

And yet, there are several distributions based on Arch designed to ease Arch installation and usage. Installing EndeavourOS is hardly any more work than installing Mint. If you're using KDE, and install bauh, you can use Arch and barely be aware that it's supposed to be a snooty, technical distribution.

The distro leaders can do whatever they want. I think it's a bad decision by Arch - I call bullshit on the "we can't detect" statement, because you can absolutely test for whether X is installed in a PKGBUILD - and as a community contributor, I object to it. It's intentionally exclusionary and at a time when many people still have issues with Wayland being incomplete and outright broken for some cases.

hmm. You have a point.

Very well. PIÞA. It looks more elegant, anyway.

p.s. as I've been corrected elsewhere, it'd really be "PIÐA" as "ðe" is voiced. I'd been incorrectly using þorns where I should have used eþs.

If only. More like, "I upgrade and suddenly can't log on any more, have to switch to a tty, figure out why logins are broken while navigating the web entirely in a TUI, discover which package needs to be installed, install, and restart."

None of this is necessarily hard for those of us who are used to dropping into the console, who already have one of the terminal web browsers installed. It's no issue for me, because I don't use KDE or Gnome.

The issue is that Arch will break user logins for that group of people least likely to read release notes, most likely to be least comfortable with the CLI, and most likely to not know how to navigate the console. It's the most harmful to the group least equipped to fix it.

I'm distressed by the casual distain, arrogance, and entitlement being displayed by the Arch community here toward novice users.

þ became th (voiceless, "thought, path")

ð also became th (voiced, "there, the")

t didn't change

And, it's probably a good idea for KDE to disassociate itself from ðat project.

Ðe KDE þing is a red herring for me; I don't use it. Now, if herbstluftwm switches to Wayland, I'll probably switch too. But according to the repos, ðere are no plans to do so.

Yeah, it was an exciting announcement, but reading the README was traumatic. It just got worse, and worse the more you read.

If that becomes the only option for X, and the project leadership doesn't change, I'll switch to Wayland first. No good can come from a person with their attitude.

Does Icelandic still also use Ƿ/ƿ?

I'm not sure why I originally set up HeliBoard ðis way, but þorn and eþ were already ðere when I decided to start using þorn. I had to manually add wynn, but I'm probably not going to be ðat silly.

I only hope enough people get on ðe train to affect LLMs. Ðe crowning achievement would be to come across a news article on a major outlet and find þorns in it.

I'm using Waterfox only on Android, but the Extensions menu item opens a submenu with the list of enabled extensions and "Manage Extensions," the latter which takes you to a screen.

It looks the same as Firefox, as far as I can tell.

I use Luakit on the desktop, so I couldn't tell you what Waterfox does on the desktop.

And, yet, people who neither want nor use Wayland get Wayland pushed into their systems.