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submitted 9 months ago by mondoman712@lemmy.ml to c/fuck_cars@lemmy.ml
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[-] qyron@sopuli.xyz 29 points 9 months ago

In Portugal, e-scooters had to be severely regulated as many gruesome and bloody accidents happened because their users entered high speed ways, heavily modified the scooters to achieve over 80km/h speeds, were left abandoned by users of rental services everywhere, invaded sidewalks and endangered pedestrians or public transports lanes.

The ever growing size of cars is a worthy cause of worry: I drive a Ford Ranger for professional reasons and the vehicle is ridiculously cumbersome, wide and clumsy for the roads I have to use. Lawmakers need to cull the auto makers arms race on bulky vehicles.

But lets not overlook that e-scooters are a very big source of traffic accidents by themselves and let this micromobility solution run amok.

[-] mondoman712@lemmy.ml 13 points 9 months ago

Are escooters a "very big source of traffic accidents"? I'm sure there have been crashes and there should be regulations, but are these crashes just much more publicised than car crashes and that's why you think there's been a lot?

[-] qyron@sopuli.xyz 11 points 9 months ago

I have a national entity that collects and processes such data and elaborates the statistics.

Just out of sheer number, car accidents have to be more numerous: more cars, more accidents.

But car related accidents do not have to be fatal by default, or bring severe bodily damage to passengers and bystanders.

escooters have no protection neither for the user nor bystanders, with the added risk factor that a gross number of the users of these scooters invade, willingly, walkways and other reserved lanes, with often serious consequences.

escooters brought an entire new pletora of problems

[-] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

I drive a Ford Ranger for professional reasons and the vehicle is ridiculously cumbersome, wide and clumsy

The Ranger used to be decently small, for a truck. Not truly tiny like a VW Rabbit Pickup or whatever, but decent.

[-] qyron@sopuli.xyz 2 points 9 months ago

It's the first time I drive one. In my private life I drive either hatchbacks or station wagons (because dogs) which handle and are built very differently.

[-] MeowyNinhaj@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 9 months ago
[-] mondoman712@lemmy.ml 19 points 9 months ago

Except cars cost the tax payer a lot more than they raise, and larger vehicles cost even more.

[-] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

But e-scooter companies don't pay as many bribes and don't have as many lobbyists.

[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

e-scooters killed all my friends

[-] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

I myself was killed by an e-scooter! Twice!

[-] PlantDadManGuy@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

An E scooter turned me into a newt!

[-] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

🤨 A newt?

[-] uis@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago
[-] Dirk@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

Because the politicians are deep up in the automobile lobby's ass.

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