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[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 85 points 5 months ago (9 children)

As an avid carnivore I'm excited about lab grown meat. I think anyone against it just doesn't realize what it is. It's literally meat. It's just not attached to an animal. That's all it is.

The best part is because it's not attached to an animal that needs animal things, it's basically free limitless meat. What meat lover wouldn't want that? Come on now.

I'm not too fond of all the lab grown microplastics though.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 40 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The moment lab grown is one PENNY cheaper at the store will be a massive moment for animal welfare.

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 18 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Hell, current plant-based alternatives would be doing great too if they weren't inexplicably more expensive. Impossible Meat has a lower environmental impact and requires fewer resources to make than beef? Great! Why does it cost more then? I'm not even vegetarian but I'd happily switch to fake burgers if they weren't double the price.

[–] yimby@lemmy.ca 27 points 5 months ago

The answer to why is billions of dollars of subsidies to the animal meat industry.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 months ago

That tells me demand is more driven by diet & environmental reasons than cost.

To make up numbers:

Price a pound of pleat, er plant meat, at $10, and 5 vegans and 5 environmentalists buy it. Drop the price to $8 and 5 vegans and 5 environmentalists and 2 price-sensitive environmentalists buy it.

Gross $100 on the former or $99 on the latter. Net more than one dollar extra profit on the former (10 pounds cheaper to produce than 12 pounds). Solution if you’re a profit-hungry corporation? Keep the price high.

Bummer but think that’s what’s going on

[–] mecfs@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Until the party of freedom bans it. Hasn’t florida already?

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

Governor Meatball banned it, yeah. Guy's an idiot.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 17 points 5 months ago

It’s already been banned by entire states. Quite ridiculous and shows who their donors are.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I have seen vegans come out against lab grown meat...for...reasons? I get why they're vegans because of "traditional" meat, but lab grown meat doesn't have the problems of "traditional" meat LMAO

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They claim the DNA and cells used to seed the cultures is an "animal byproduct"

[–] capital@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

I've seen a mixed response in the community.

I've been vegan for about 4 years and I will be all over lab grown meat if/when it "makes it".

The biggest issue I remember reading about was "fetal bovine serum" which, IIRC, was needed continuously throughout the process.

Personally, if all that's required to get started is a cell sample from a living animal which isn't harmed beyond the sample (minor and far from life threatening or causing suffering) then I'll be eating it for sure.

[–] norimee@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm a flexitarian with meat cravings every so often and I'm exited for Lab-meat too. I'm totally with you know this.

And come on, how many of these people screaming about lab meat actually know where their meat comes from. Most of it comes out of meat processing plants and the thought of these makes me really squeezy. Every now and then there are investigative pieces about them and they are all disgusting and really concerning. I'd take lab-grown any day.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes! Processed meat scares me. People have no issue with it though. Don't look up what's in it if you want your stomach to stay where it is.

[–] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Why would they stop making garbage over-processed meat products just because the base meat doesn't come from animals anymore? It won't be suddenly more healthy if that's what you're saying.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

I didn't say anything like that.

[–] pumpkinseedoil@mander.xyz 3 points 4 months ago

Ideally it'd completely replace mass produced meat and coexist with organic meat.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Also, the meat flavors can be refined and adjusted for better results. The proteins and fat can be precisely calculated to make objectively the best steak available to mankind, ever. People against lab grown meat have no idea when they order a steak they are being fed propaganda.

[–] pumpkinseedoil@mander.xyz 1 points 4 months ago

Ideally it'd completely replace mass produced meat and coexist with organic meat.

[–] pumpkinseedoil@mander.xyz 1 points 4 months ago

Ideally it'd completely replace mass produced meat and coexist with organic meat.

[–] pumpkinseedoil@mander.xyz 1 points 4 months ago

Ideally this would completely replace mass produced meat and coexist with organic meat

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 5 months ago (3 children)

The right wing panic* over how the left wants to destroy hamburgers and make everyone eat bugs is hilarious. You already eat bugs and you love it, you just call them shrimp and lobster!

If you want to say that doesn’t count, you STILL probably eat bugs in any processed food that’s red and doesn’t have artificial dye in it. They’re listed as cochineal/carmine/crimson lake/natural red 4/E120 <- these are all the same bug!

* not saying that’s what you’re doing OP, that’s just the most common context I see it

[–] candybrie@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

They're just also in anything processed. Everything has an allowable amount of bugs. And it isn't usually 0. https://www.fda.gov/food/current-good-manufacturing-practices-cgmps-food-and-dietary-supplements/food-defect-levels-handbook

[–] bc93@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It just doesn’t make sense anyways. Like, legumes are such a protein dense source of food, they can be grown worldwide and processed in many different ways… why would we go to the trouble of farming insects for nutrition when we could much more easily just use soy, peas, lentils and beans like we have done for literally 40,000+ years?

[–] wonderfulvoltaire@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

As long as food is processed correctly either through farm animals or a lab I really don't care what it is. Actual health should be the only priority above any profits or ambiguity.

[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 21 points 5 months ago (2 children)

No Brawndo? What kind of inaccurate bs is this?

[–] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 12 points 5 months ago

It's what plants crave!

[–] zagaberoo@beehaw.org 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Water doesn't go on the food pyramid, silly!

[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 5 months ago

Water? Like from the toilet?

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 21 points 5 months ago (3 children)

What do people even have against soy milk‽ It tastes great!

[–] ftbd@feddit.de 8 points 5 months ago

I prefer oat milk

[–] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You are certainly entitled to that opinion.

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 3 points 5 months ago

Wrong, but entitled.

[–] janus2@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 months ago

I like to put it in my coffee and have DOUBLE BEAN WATER

[–] Toes@ani.social 20 points 5 months ago

I think you need a screwdriver holding the tip off ever so slightly

[–] MeDuViNoX@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Show us the other 3 sides of the pyramid!

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Pshh they know they can't. Pyramids are just a conspiracy from big government.

Only triangles exist and they know it. Have you ever seen all "4 sides"? Huh? What about the 5th side? Does that even exist? And wouldn't that make it a square?

Remember, I am not obtuse, don't isosce-late me from the truth! We are right!

[–] i_love_FFT@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 months ago

I'd like to see the triangle grow two additional sides, becoming a 3-sided pyramid. Then, a fourth pops up, turning into a typical 4 sided one. But then, a fifth appears, then a sixth, then more and more untill it becomes a food cone

Then it flips over and gets filled with ice cream. There, the perfect food pyramid!

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago

The 5th side is the bottom.

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 months ago

Survivors can have a little antidepressant. As a treat

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What was the original second tier?

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 5 months ago
[–] Salmarez@hexbear.net 2 points 5 months ago

Not vegan enough.

[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 months ago

i think you mean oat milk >:(