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[–] thisismyrealname@hexbear.net 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

please explain to us how Trump or any president could possibly do worse than actively arming and funding a genocide

[–] FlaminGoku@reddthat.com 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] thisismyrealname@hexbear.net 7 points 6 months ago

"sure i'll vote for the genocidaire, as long as he promises not to do it to me!"

the continued existence of israel will mean the development of new methods of oppression and subjugation, first applied to the Palestinians, but then exported for use against dissenters in the United States. the cops who cracked skulls last week at Emory University and killed Tortugita were trained by Israeli police as part of the GILEE program. this shit is coming home and supporting one farcical candidate over another will not stop it.

[–] Aquilae@hexbear.net 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So you're okay with a genocide as long as it's not happening to you.

Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds. You're just a fascist.

[–] FlaminGoku@reddthat.com 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

https://lemmy.world/post/14924219

Here you go. Guess I'm a fascist for not wanting this to happen.

[–] Aquilae@hexbear.net 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No one's telling you to vote for one of the parties of Capital, neither the one currently committing a genocide in practice, nor the one that would commit one hypothetically.

Rather than defending Hitler because Himmler might be worse, spend that effort joining an org and doing praxis.

[–] FlaminGoku@reddthat.com 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I appreciate the idea of organizing, but you have such an infantile take on this.

Not voting means i have given up my ability to choose and i will instead end up with whomever those that did use their ability chose. I know that one of these choices will be holistically better, therefore i will vote for them.

[–] Aquilae@hexbear.net 2 points 6 months ago

Very naive take. Vocal participation in a genocidal system is endorsement of it. You can't tell people to vote for one of the parties of Capital and then tell people that actually it needs to be overthrown and think that's going to happen 5 years later.

At some point or another you just have to commit to it being "broken" (actually working as intended of course) and build your movement based entirely on the fact that it is broken and can not be supported in any way whatsoever. We're long past that point with the "lesser evil" party currently committing genocide.

Successful revolutions in the past like the October revolution have used elections primarily as a way to show the size of the movement, never by endorsing a party of Capital, and have built said movements by organizing. Endorsing a genocidal party won't stop them from committing genocide.

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago

Trump will do that, and has moved the embassy. They named a settlement after him because he supported them so much

[–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 1 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Sending more help for the genocide, as tRump said he would do, you fucking donkey. Fuck off troll.

[–] thisismyrealname@hexbear.net 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

do you really think the already insane amount of aid Biden is sending them is holding Israel back in any way?

i'm not saying to vote for Trump, i'm saying fuck you for trying to guilt me into voting for Biden. i will not vote for a genocidaire, full stop

[–] IndianaJones@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago

Then who do you vote for? (If you're willing to tell us)

[–] NewLeaf@hexbear.net 2 points 6 months ago

There won't be a Palestine for trump to destroy by November.