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submitted 1 year ago by cron@feddit.de to c/linux_gaming@lemmy.ml

The YouTube channel "Maximum Fury" conducted a technical test of the new Cyberpunk add-on called "Phantom Liberty" on an older AMD hardware system, testing it separately on Linux and Windows 11. The Linux system, specifically the Fedora distribution called Nobara, performed significantly better, delivering 31% more frames compared to Windows 11.

The hardware used for testing included an Asrock B550 motherboard with an AMD Ryzen 5 5600 CPU and an AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT GPU from the first RDNA generation, along with 16 GB of DDR4 RAM. The CPU, RAM, and GPU were overclocked, and the system utilized undervolting to save energy costs.

When testing the game at 1080p resolution with high textures, the Linux system achieved an average of 63.72 frames per second (fps), while Windows 11 managed only 48.55 fps. This suggests that the game should run noticeably smoother on the Linux system.

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[-] HuddaBudda@kbin.social 168 points 1 year ago

A 30% increase in performance just might get gamers to switch over to the new operating system.

Hell that is the difference between a better graphics card for some people. It's like getting a free overclock, just for going outside your comfort zone.

[-] cron@feddit.de 25 points 1 year ago

This is just one game with one particular graphics card, this might not be the same for example with nvidia cards.

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[-] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago

30 percent of real improvement is one hell of an overclock...

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[-] Lojcs@lemm.ee 58 points 1 year ago
[-] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 28 points 1 year ago

Ha that hit hard. This is basically the system I just upgraded to. Well at least it'll run the game well.

[-] Lutz69@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

It's the exact same system I upgraded to a couple months ago except I got 5700 x3d. This system slaps bro I love it.

[-] ______@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

There isn't a single piece of software that I use that makes me think I should upgrade my 5600. Not a single game fully utilizes it (on 1440p res)

Older hardware is fine.

[-] Pantrygheist@programming.dev 14 points 1 year ago

Me with my i7 2600 playing with oblivion level graphics: yeah, older hw is just fine

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[-] greyjedi@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

What are the chances that it's just not rendering something due to the DX12 to Vulkan translation?

[-] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Possible, but looking through the footage it seems everything is being rendered as expected.

[-] rush@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

It won't just not render something. DXVK is already a finished thing in that regard. Complete enough that Intel uses it for legacy DirectX support in their ARC GPUs even.

[-] MooseBoys@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

It’s entirely possible that the translation layer will alter timing to expose a race condition such that something doesn’t render.

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[-] wreleven@lemmy.ca 36 points 1 year ago

Thanks Stadia. No wonder it performed so well.

[-] hperrin@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

That may be true, but that’s only because Linux is better than Windows.

[-] NBJack@reddthat.com 32 points 1 year ago

Windows 11 is trash. Microsoft kept boasting it was "faster" than 10, but it is (unsurprisingly?) heavy in some weird areas, including a less snappy start menu, more telemetry, invasive integration with their software, you name it. Tried one machine in my collection to try it via an upgrade (a Microsoft Surface Pro 6), and the performance was so bad I ended up going back to Windows 10. Multi-second lag just to get to the program shortcuts is a really bad sign.

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[-] Swiggles@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It is just unfortunate that it does not run on Nvidia hardware. The benchmark runs if you disable all RTX features, but it crashes on a new game before you even have full control of the character.

Looking at protondb it looks like all people with Nvidia have issues since the 2.0 update. I hope there will be some fix soon. I don't want to replace the GPU yet it would be a waste (2080 Super).

For now I am playing it on my Steam Deck instead.

[-] visnudeva@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't know what you're talking about, It run very well on my Nvidia GPU on Linux before and after the patch and DLC.

[-] Swiggles@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago

Create a new character, select corporate start and once the other person enters the room the game crashes just for the easiest 100% reproducible crash. Other people have the same problems and even if they get past that (different game start) it still frequently crashes due to Nvidia driver bugs as far as I understand it.

If it works so well for you what's your setup? I heard some older Nvidia cards might work better.

[-] cpw@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

Downgrade to the 510 Nvidia driver. Runs absolutely solid on my rtx2080. It should be noted that this crash seems to be quite correlated to the rtx20x0 cards - my speculation is that something about dlss is a bit borked on them since they're the first dlss 2+ cards. It's not even exclusively Linux either, reports indicate that there's some sort of overlay (I blame the call overlay myself) that is tanking fps on windows as well. The 510 driver works great because dlss isn't available for it as I understand it.

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[-] sounddrill@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 25 points 1 year ago

Casual vulkan W?

[-] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Now can you make it stop defaulting to controller keybindings on Linux?

[-] Nihil@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago

echo '2C45C6: EB' | xxd -r - Cyberpunk2077.exe

In the x64 bin folder

[-] neutron@thelemmy.club 23 points 1 year ago

Source, and what is this command supposed to do? We shouldn't blindly copypaste shell commands from online.

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[-] thefartographer@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

Shut up and look at the more frames. - article author mumbling - God damn ingrates always complaining just because things don't work right... 30% more frames is practically 10% less controller!
໒꒰ྀི -᷅ ⤙ -᷄ ꒱ྀི১

[-] BallsInTheShredder@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Haha, what a crazy coincidence! I had the original cyberpunk last year on windows 10. It was glitchy as hell but ran semi decent on my hardware.

Deleted it, and last night just installed phantom liberty.

Ngl, the gameplay and feel is so far 10x better than it was before the update. It's actually complete now and if you hated it before I'd honestly recommend another try as so far I'm actually sort of enjoying the gameplay whereas I hated it before and only played for the story.

Anyway, my issue is that with all of the updates it's not running anywhere near as nice as it was before. I'm having to run it on the lowest resolution with every graphic option disabled which stinks because with the gameplay being fixed somewhat I'd really like to enjoy it graphically as well.

I've installed Ubuntu dual boot on my ssd before and can do that again but any tips? I wouldn't know about where to even get phantom liberty on fedora or how to install it?

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[-] lelgenio@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hey that's a similar setup to mine, except I have 6700XT, on ultra settings, worst case scenario I get ~60FPS, on average it's 80

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[-] Mindlight@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's a well known fact that every second major release of Windows is crap.

  • Windows 95 was not the best.
  • Windows 95OSR2 was the one you wanted.
  • Windows 98 sucked.
  • Windows 98 2nd ed. worked as the former should have.
  • Windows 2000 was great but had no support for running games.
  • XP solved that and made people leave Windows 98 (I deliberately left out the clusterf... Windows ME.).
  • Windows Vista sucked balls.
  • Windows 7 was what Vista should have been.
  • Windows 8? Metro on phones, yes! On desktop? No no no.
  • Windows 10 got Microsoft back on track again.

I thought the new upgrade scheme (2 editions per year) Microsoft introduced with Windows 10 would be like "every second release will suck" but it started to look like Microsoft were able to break the curse....

...and then Windows 11 happened.

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[-] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 9 points 1 year ago

By the way, the "rendering at lower resolution and upscaling" thingy, is there a way to force AMD's version on any game in Linux? I want to play Satisfactory and got a 5700G, fat iGPU but only 2GB VRAM.

[-] cron@feddit.de 14 points 1 year ago

Forcing FSR1 is possible (and was even possible before it was on Windows), FSR2 is not.

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