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[–] blazera@kbin.social 64 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Industrialized animal killing isnt gonna attract ethical folks to run it

[–] grayman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Temple Grandin would like a word.

[–] Seraph@kbin.social 38 points 1 year ago

While screwing our climate via lobbying.

[–] seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org 29 points 1 year ago

I don't want better working conditions in the torture-murder factories. I want those factories shut down.

[–] _number8_@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

honestly the fact that we have artificial meats that are almost as good as proper meat, we should be switching entirely. we are creating and torturing trillions of souls simply so mcdonals can have burgers

[–] ImFresh3x@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’m down. I eat almost zero meat already, but I’ve never tasted an alternative that tastes like meat yet. Hopefully lab grown is available and affordable soon.

[–] seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you eat almost zero meat, why do you care whether or not something tastes like meat? Shouldn't you care whether or not it tastes good?

[–] ImFresh3x@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don’t understand this question.

I like the taste of meat. It’s really quite delicious. I just don’t eat it often. I also like video games, but I don’t play them often. I enjoy lots of things on occasion.

I see no reason to avoid meat entirely. That’s my personal choice. And when there’s lab grown meat I won’t have to worry about it. I’ll just buy lab grown.

[–] Mighty@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait. You see NO REASON? Like in this thread with this article in it you still see no reason to stop eating flesh?

[–] ImFresh3x@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No. 99% of the planet eats meat. It’s delicious. And I feel zero guilt about also eating meat, occasion.

Animals die every time I eat salad too.

Fucking weirdo. No one likes you people.

I don’t understand why you people don’t understand why yourselves reproducing is the real issue.

[–] EvolvedTurtle@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

Cheem burgor

[–] Literati@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I've been a meat eater my whole life, and a well made impossible burger is pretty damn close. There's nothing "not meat-y" about it like I've experienced with beyond meat. I even use it to make my biscuits and gravy now because I can't tell the difference at all in that.

[–] grayman@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Alternative vegetable based "meats" have a huge amount of preservatives, emulsifiers, binders, and other nasty chemicals. Artificial meat is literally cancer enduced muscle cells grown in a vat of antibiotics.

If you don't want meat or feel morally bound to not consume meat, just be a vegetarian or vegan. The "alternatives" are disgusting.

[–] toxicbubble420@beehaw.org 13 points 1 year ago

wait til ya see the animal rights reports

[–] PelicanPersuader@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People in the comments missing the point completely. The solution to animal cruelty is not human cruelty.

Yes, eating animals is cruel to animals, but meat eating isn't going away, and being cruel to the people who work in those places isn't going to stop the industry. It's just going to physically and mentally harm a lot of underpaid, overworked, poor, immigrant people. People who don't have healthcare for the injuries they incur working in hazardous places, for corporations who see them as just replaceable parts of a machine. Being harmed working in these plants isn't going to result in fewer animals dying or better conditions for the animals we kill. It's just more senseless harm.

[–] alottachairs@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Clarifying question, are you saying shutting down slaughter houses is human cruelty?

[–] PelicanPersuader@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No. Having inhumane conditions for the workers is cruelty.

[–] alottachairs@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

Yes, so wouldnt shutting them down be good? We dont need slaughterhouses. I get meat "isnt going away" but if we should shut down facilities that operate with human cruelty.

[–] Unanimous_anonymous@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No. They're saying that slaughter houses don't appear to be going away in the near future since there is a still a fervent demand for meat, so the answer of "just shut them down" isn't a valid solution yet. They should be removed of human cruelty until we can fully remove them.

[–] alottachairs@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So the answer provided is no answer at all? We need to close any factory that operates with cruelty. There is no acception to be made.

[–] Unanimous_anonymous@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Assuming you aren't being purposefully obtuse, the answer is to make them safe and suitable environments for people to work in. You can figure out a way to punish the company who is creating these conditions, but for the time being, the answer is to make them reasonable to work in.

[–] alottachairs@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Im not sure how saying "we need to shut down a factory that operates with human suffering" is obtuse.

[–] Unanimous_anonymous@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

It's obtuse because it's not like another one is going to crop up in the same town in the same day to give the workers jobs, nor is it going to solve the issue of regulating the industry properly. The people enforcing the policies need teeth, and those teeth should be able to bite at the people causing these conditions. Places get like this because 3rd party inspection is underfunded and underpowered. Shutting a place down means it cuts into profits while potentially cutting off workers' incomes. It doesn't mean the owners or board get significantly impacted.

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm kind of pissed with people trying to push they mediocre agendas through memes. You have an opinion? Grow a pair and publish it in c/politicalmemes /s