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[–] Capitao_Duarte 27 points 1 month ago (12 children)

Amazing news! Unfortunately, if this comes to Brazil and 8tb SSD would be the price of a car

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (7 children)
[–] Teils13 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

R$ 5.460,00 (Brazilian Reais), the first comment is just exaggerating and having a 'mongrel complex' take. It is nowhere near the price of a car even today.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In freedom units, that looks to be ~$1k for 8TB SSD. Same device here is $600-700.

[–] Teils13 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So, not that much more expensive, i bet west european countries get near or equal that price, it's electronics in the US that are cheaper than others (including rich countries). and it's more that we are poor.

[–] zzx@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's decently more expensive! $300-700 difference is pretty significant imo. Like I couldn't swing that I don't think, pushes it too expensive

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It could also be a difference in how sales tax or whatever is presented. I know in the EU, VAT is included in online pricing, whereas sales tax in the US is not. I don't know how Brazil runs things, but that could explain a chunk of the difference. The US also likely has higher volume for these kinds of things, so prices will likely be lower in the US than Brazil.

But yeah, it looks to be about 40-50% more expensive, which is substantial. If you're looking to spend $600-700 on storage, there's a good chance you can afford another $300-400, you just don't want to spend that much.

[–] Teils13 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Brazilian system is the most simple: It is already the final price (not counting shipping, which might be many options), with EVERY tax included. Period. What i see is what i pay. Even Aliexpress shows numbers with all taxes included in the final total price now.

The Yankee system is honestly both insane and fraudulent, nothing is ever the price that the webpages or stickers show, i always have to guess it's somewhere between 10% and 20% more. The european system is also more honest, unless they also have other taxes besides VAT that they don't show.

In the US, sales tax varies by jurisdiction, even within a state. If I buy something in my city, it could be 0.10-0.25% difference than the city next door, because our cities will have different tax needs. In my state, sales tax ranges from 7.5-8.5%, depending on where the purchase is made, and the city portion is generally around 1% (state portion is fixed).

It's incredibly dumb, and I wish physical stores were required to display price after factoring in taxes. However, for websites, I don't expect that, simply due to the variability between jurisdictions (makes advertising prices ridiculous), and because it's trivial to see the final figure in the cart after I input shipping information.

So if Brazil includes taxes in online quotes like the EU, the gaps is even narrower. My local tax rate is around 8%, so for me, that $600-700 item would be $650-750, which is still cheaper than Brazil, but Brazil may very well have higher sales tax than here. Ideally, we'd compare w/ pre-tax values for a more apples-to-apples figure.

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