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[โ€“] voluble@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 month ago (15 children)

Even if the Liberals somehow manage to find a credible, electable leader that doesn't end up being a Michael Ignatieff 2.0, I see no reason to trust that they won't deliver more of the same bullshit.

When it comes to leadership in American politics, it's said that democrats fall in love, and republicans fall in line.

I don't want to fall in love. The past decade of Canadian politics has been a parade of 'charisma' and it hasn't gotten us anywhere. I want a sincere and straightforward leader, who won't get embroiled in scandals, has a strong stance on foreign policy, a plan for foreign interference, the housing & affordability crisis, and an ability to deal with issues in a straightforward and policy-focused way. I guess what I'm trying to say is I want a prime minister with a short skirt and a long jacket.

[โ€“] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Well the obvious choice would be Chrystia Freeland. But would you consider her to be a bullshit choice?

[โ€“] voluble@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

What I mean to say is not that the LPC's choice for leader would be bullshit, but that, whatever their choice is, it's hard to imagine how they would be able to credibly separate themselves from what has made the LPC so unpopular.

So for that reason, I'm not sure why Freeland would be the obvious choice. If the Liberals want to win a federal election, I think she'd be a poor choice for party leader. Any barbs that could be directed at Trudeau could be easily directed at Freeland. From an optics standpoint, I don't think it's possible to differentiate Freeland from Trudeau, and the Liberal party of the past decade. That's a problem that I think would override who she is or her credentials, at least in the public eye.

[โ€“] Splitdipless@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Freeland is incredibly capable - but can be tied, hand in glove, with everything Trudeau. Actually, the current joke is that Trudeau doesn't even do any work as PM, he just gives it to Freeland.

PP is going 'young, hip' - maybe they could use Fraser as the next PM candidate.

[โ€“] voluble@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

PP is going โ€˜young, hipโ€™

Such a laughable turn. I think it's a marker that literally anybody could be in his shoes, doing and saying anything at all, and they'd be polling well.

Freeland is incredibly capable - but can be tied, hand in glove, with everything Trudeau

Yep. Liberals are zugzwanged.

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