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There are zero people on this website who can withstand actual torture, myself included. There are few people in the entire history of humanity who can withstand it, and they're exceptional people, 9 million times more bad ass than the average Lemming.
If you ever find yourself in a position where you are going to be tortured, just tell them everything and hope they take that information and kill you. It's unlikely. They'll probably still torture you to be sure they got everything, and the truth, and whatever else their motivations are, but that's your one hope. Otherwise, I'm so sorry. Finding yourself restrained in the hands of an actual monster is a nightmare.
I disagree and think this is just perpetuates the mistaken belief that torture actually provides results.
"Everything we know from psychology, physiology, neuroscience, and psychiatry about behaviour and the brain under extreme stress, pain, sleep deprivation, extremes of hot and cold suggests that torture as a method for information extraction does not work — it may produce information, but that information is not reliable. There are also numerous first-hand reports of torture survivors that make the point amply: an individual subjected to torture will say anything to make it stop."
Torture and money will give you a ton of information but not reliable information.
Because in the first case the person will say anything to make you stop and in the second case the person will say anything to make you continue.
Many years ago I read an article by an Iranian gentleman that basically highlighted that torture doesn't get the answers required, it harms both the sufferer and the person inflicting pain on a deep level. This also brings to mind the prevalence of torture in the early series of "24"... a problem later addressed by the producers when they actively avoided depiction of torture. In the early Obama presidency there was a lot of (over due) contrition over the use of enhanced interrogation at Guantanamo bay. Arguements for the use of torture were often given in the context of a "ticking time bomb" or equivalent scenario that needed to be stopped in a given time limit, despite such incidents not having a real life precedent.