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Why are so many Pro-Palestine (I am pro-Palestine and anti-genocide) Americans refusing to vote for Harris due to her stance on Israel? (discuss.tchncs.de)

submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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As the title states I am confused on this matter. The way I see it, the USA has a two party system and in the next few weeks they’re either going to have Trump or Harris as president, come inauguration day. With this in mind doesn’t it make sense to vote for the person least likely to escalate the situation even more.

Giving your vote to an independent or worse not voting at all, just gives more of a chance for Trump to win the election and then who knows what crazy stuff he will allow, or encourage, Israel to get away with.

I really don’t get the logic. As sure nobody wants to vote for a party allowing these heinous crimes to be committed, but given you’re getting one of them shouldn’t you be voting for the one that will be the least horrible of the two.

Please don’t come at me with pro-Israeli rhetoric as this isn’t the post for that, I’m asking about why people would make such choices and I’m not up for debate on the Middle East, on this post, you can DM me for that.

Edit: Bedtime here now so will respond to incoming comments in the morning, love starting the day with an inbox full 😊.

Edit 2: This blew up, it’s a little overwhelming right now but I do intent on replying to everybody that took the time to comment. Just need to get in the right headspace.

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[–] Talisker@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (26 children)

Your vote is your consent.

Imagine for a minute that your perfect political candidate was running. The only catch is that if they win they are promising to personally execute your family in front of you. The other guy is gonna kill your family too so everyone tells you to stop being such a single issue voter and vote for the lesser evil.

Do you still vote for them? Or do you refuse to participate in the execution of your family?

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 3 points 3 weeks ago (13 children)

Your vote is not your consent; that's some nonsense made up to get people to not vote.

In your metaphor, you vote for one your family dies, you vote for another your family and another family dies. You refuse to participate in the system and both families die.

You didn't consent to that, but you allowed it to happen via your vote of INDIFFERENCE which is what not voting means. It means you don't care which way things go, because that's all it can mean to not make a choice.

[–] Talisker@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Easy to say when it’s not your family getting slaughtered.

But we all know you’re a paragon of rationality who would enthusiastically vote for an administration who has promised to kill your family because your love of lesser evilism outweighs anything else.

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg -1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

You know, you can find something evil in just about any politician's policy depending on your personal perspective.

So let's just not vote, because we shouldn't choose. We should just morally abstain from having choices because making no choice is the only way to make a choice.

Do you realize how absurd that sounds?

If you want to protest genocide, then GO DO IT, don't throw away a vote because that's not a protest, it's a pathetic excuse.

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