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[-] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

My argument is what did the democrats have to lose for supporting Gaza/Palestinians? It's obvious not running a fully left facing candidate and campaign was a mistake.

We are mad at the wrong people. The reality of the situation is that the democrats can't win without the far left of the party. So why won't we extend an olive branch? If we get a next time, what are we going to do differently?! This is the reality. Either we wake up to that or keep losing. Pick one.

[-] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 days ago

Fuck the people who didnt vote based on gaza. They are even dumber than Maga hats. They help the candidate that is even worse for gaza win . No one should offer these people any branches. Fuck them. Treat them like the idiots they are just like we do with MAGA.

[-] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

Okay but if we are guaranteed to lose without them, what's the harm in giving them what they want? Losing while taking the morally right position is never wrong. We spit in the Arab/Muslim/Palestinians/far left Americans faces and they stayed home on election day. So what's the harm in at least giving into their demands? The Republicans do that for their base and are winning even when they lose elections. So I'm arguing a change in tactics because we are literally taking the insanity route if we don't.

[-] AnyProgressIsGood@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago

Are we. Is that what the demos say? Don't think black men and Latinos care about Gaza. The far left is so finicky and small

[-] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

There is no left and esp. no far left in america.

[-] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

Not any more there isn't. And soon, in the next few years, we'll see a systematic elimination of any remaining opposition, by means of oppression, suppression, and even more violent means.

[-] remembergladio@lemmings.world 1 points 1 day ago

So like in the 30ies? And the 50ies? And the 60ies? Also the 70ies?

Ah yes that will be a huge change lmao

[-] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

There never was a left in america. What you call left os conservative in every country with a real political spectrum

[-] remembergladio@lemmings.world 1 points 1 day ago

There was at some point. It's how we got the first of may.

[-] ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee 0 points 1 day ago

A good number of left-wing politicans in my country would be considered right-wing in the USA.

[-] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago

And you think that matters when there isn't even going to be a fucking center-right any more?

[-] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 day ago

There wont be free elections in the US anymore so of course it doesnt matter. Its thank to the maga, Jill Stein, and non voters.

[-] remembergladio@lemmings.world 1 points 1 day ago

It's thanks to the dems and their shit party and insufferable keyboard soldiers

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