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Feds: Critical Software Must Drop C/C++ by 2026 or Face Risk (thenewstack.io)

submitted 2 weeks ago by arendjr@programming.dev to c/programming@programming.dev

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[–] refalo@programming.dev 0 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I think you could argue the same point with C++

[–] robinm@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago (3 children)

void foo() {
    std::vector v = {0, 1, 2, 4};
    const auto& ref = v[1];
    add_missing_values(v);
    std::cout << ref << "\n";
}

void add_missing_values(std::vector<int>& v) {
    // ...
    v.push_back(3);
}

Neither foo(), nor add_missing_values() looks suspicious. Nonetheless, if v.push_back(3) requires v to grow, then ref becomes an invalid reference and std::cout << ref becomes UB (use after free). In Rust this would not compiles.

It is order of magnitudes easier to have lifetime errors in C++ than in Rust (use after free, double free, data races, use before initialisation, …)

[–] refalo@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

This would be caught by ASan and other tools though, which should be part of any review.

[–] robinm@programming.dev 0 points 6 days ago

I think you have a hard time understanding the différence between "not possible" and "much harder".

In Rust, the code does not compile.

In C++ the code compile, but

if you have a test case
this test case triggers the bug (it is not guarateed to properly reproduce you production environment since it depends on the parameters of the allocator of your vector)
you use ubsan

... then the bug will be caught.

Yes it is possible, noone says the opposite. But you can't deny it's harder. And because its harder, more bugs get past review, most notably security bugs as demonstrated again and again in many studies. The

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