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I know you're convinced that a little cinnamon improves your chili.

You are incorrect on this conviction.

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[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 7 points 5 days ago (12 children)

As a vegan it might be strange and interesting to try to replicate the "authentic" Texas Red recipes. No beans, no tomato. The basic recipe would be an almost purely pepper-based stock, probably use both Beyond Ground and diced Beyond Steak. If I recall, the most original known chili recipe called for a substantial amount of added pig fat. I'm not big on high-fat foods in the first place, so to me it's dubious whether to even include an alternative. But if I did, the most comparable choice would be coconut oil, but I avoid coconut/palm oil to the best of my ability, so probably a bit of added avocado oil would work best, though it's worth noting that Beyond products are already high in one or the other of these (avocado Beyond is best). Spices don't need to change.

But then, is that really superior chili? Sorry but midwestern bean and tomato/pepper extravaganza chili is way better, and will continue to be my main. But with some added crumbled soy curls? Gonna have to try that soon.

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 5 days ago (2 children)

coconut oil and palm oil are from different plants. Are you confusing the two or is there a reason to stay away from coconut oil that I haven't heard yet?

[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Coconut oil is high in saturated fats.

[–] PetteriSkaffari@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago

Also, monkeys are forced to get the last coconuts off the trees. Animals basically used as slaves.

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 days ago

Both health and ethics reasons. Healthwise coconut oil has even higher saturated fat levels than palm oil does, but both are quite high.

Ethics wise coconut is similarly not sustainable, at least not in terms of being yet another monoculture. I would say it's arguably not vegan because of the harm that comes to animals and their habitats because of the coconut industry.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/by-the-way-doctor-is-palm-oil-good-for-you

https://theconversation.com/our-love-of-coconut-oil-may-have-forced-some-species-to-extinction-141454

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