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Declarations of the imminent doom of Ukraine are a news megathread specialty, and this is not what I am doing here - mostly because I'm convinced that whenever we do so, the war extends another three months to spite us. Ukraine has been in an essentially apocalyptic crisis for over a year now after the failure of the 2023 counteroffensive, unable to make any substantial progress and resigned to merely being a persistent nuisance (and arms market!) as NATO fights to the last Ukrainian. In this context, predicting a terminal point is difficult, as things seem to always be going so badly that it's hard to understand how and why they fight on. In every way, Ukraine is a truly shattered country, barely held together by the sheer combined force of Western hegemony. And that hegemony is weakening.

I therefore won't be giving any predictions of a timeframe for a Ukrainian defeat, but the coming presidency of Trump is a big question mark for the conflict. Trump has talked about how he wishes for the war to end and for a deal to be made with Putin, but Trump also tends to change his mind on an issue at least three or four times before actually making a decision, simply adopting the position of who talked to him last. And, of course, his ability to end the war might be curtailed by a military-industrial complex (and various intelligence agencies) that want to keep the money flowing.

The alignment of the US election with the accelerating rate of Russian gains is pretty interesting, with talk of both escalation and de-escalation coinciding - the former from Biden, and the latter from Trump. Russia very recently performed perhaps the single largest aerial attack of Ukraine of the entire war, striking targets across the whole country with missiles and drones from various platforms. In response, the US is talking about allowing Ukraine to hit long-range targets in Russia (but the strategic value of this, at this point, seems pretty minimal).

Additionally, Russia has made genuine progress in terms of land acquisition. We aren't talking about endless and meaningless battles over empty fields anymore. Some of the big Ukrainian strongholds that we've been spending the last couple years speculating over - Chasiv Yar, Kupiansk, Orikhiv - are now being approached and entered by Russian forces. The map is actually changing now, though it's hard to tell as Ukraine is so goddamn big.

Attrition has finally paid off for Russia. An entire generation of Ukrainians has been fed into the meat grinder. Recovery will take, at minimum, decades - more realistically, the country might be permanently ruined, until that global communist revolution comes around at least. And they could have just made a fucking deal a month into the war.


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[–] companero@hexbear.net 68 points 1 day ago (31 children)

I really don't believe that Russia's red line about long range missiles is a bluff. Putin specifically said that such attacks would mean direct conflict with NATO. Russia's nuclear doctrine was changed to authorize the use of nuclear weapons in response.

Russia's actual response (probably not nukes) remains a mystery, but I bet that they have something planned, and will do it if necessary. Of course, this will only happen if Ukraine actually launches the missiles.

The vibes I'm getting make me think that Ukraine may attempt massive combined missile/drone strikes on Russia, including Western weapons. I sure hope they don't try that, because Russia could genuinely consider that an existential threat worthy of using nukes over.

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

the just-Kursk allowance seems like something Russia could safely ignore, it's pretty laughable that Ukraine still seems to think occupying a couple villages will net them something substantial in the negotiations, if these missiles were capable of stymieing Russia's liberating of the Kursk territory in the first place--which judging by ATACMS not slowing the Donbass front where they are already allowed to use them... seems doubtful

[–] companero@hexbear.net 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In deterrence theory, your policy has to be strictly applied lest your frog be boiled. Putin didn't say "no long range strikes, except in Kursk". He said "no long range strikes".

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 24 points 1 day ago

at this particular time when Russia is clearly winning, meeting the escalation in a fair way could open up the way for more effectual escalation on NATO's part, making it more difficult to achieve Russia's goals. 'Oh drat the wunderwaffen didn't make Putin surrender' is a less compelling battlecry to deploy NATO troops than 'they shot down our oh-so-innocent and uninvolved AWACS unit'.

[–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

There is a nuclear reactor and a nuclear weapons research and storage facility in Kursk. Where do you think Ukraine wants to use its missiles?

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Where do you think Ukraine wants to use its missiles

i mean if the idea is to get Kiev flattened then shooting at a nuclear weapon facility would be a good idea. i'm not sure they're quite that suicidal

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 29 points 23 hours ago

They bombed the ZNPP for 2 years straight. They have depopulated their nation and pushed every man into a meat grinder. They are entirely that suicidal.

[–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 29 points 1 day ago

i'm not sure they're quite that suicidal

I feel like maybe you haven been paying attention. They aren't "suicidal" in that they don't consciously and actively wish to be dead but their track record seems to show that every time they make a decision they chose the thing that will hasten their own demise.

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