Sorry, Thanks to American Exceptionalism, (and Americans misunderstanding what that term even means). They will never, ever, ever ever ever admit that they are wrong.

The next logical step is to start seeing rambling about "god is with us, jesus is on our side" etc.

[–] big_fat_fluffy@leminal.space 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Repeating "they are bad and dumb" ad nauseum is no way to inspire sane conversation. It's just echo chamber circle jerk.

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I dont have any interest in conversing with people who are making jokes about annexing my country, or trying to shove evangelical horseshit into everyone's mouth. Theres no conversation to be had. I'm 7 or 8 years past trying to talk to most of them.

[–] youngbullhowling@lemm.ee 0 points 1 day ago

As an American I’m about 7 years past having a sane conversation with half of them as well. Recently had an experience where I “convinced” family members to support a far more sensible very left leaning agenda (for the us).

It required more skill at arguing that it did facts. And started with a hilarious level of common ground. Asking if the CEO killing was justified considering what he was responsible for.

My head hurt through the entire process and I doubt it made any lasting impact.

But, my experience is that most are so far gone down the insanity rabbit hole, it’s like reading sections of 1984.

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