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[–] gabbath@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (11 children)

I don't know, I'm principally against the death penalty. Don't get me wrong, I won't lose sleep if a nazi is granted an early exit, and it's of course fine to kill nazis in video games since it's not real. Also, I do like the revolutionary energy of those stickers, I understand where they're coming from (the goal is to make nazis afraid and I'm all in on that!). Still, they advocate for stuff outside of my morality. I'm fine removing power from nazis, by force if necessary (usually is because they're assholes who don't give a crap about the social contract) but I don't see killing anyone (or anything) as something to be desired, I can only agree with it when it's a self-defense/survival type scenario. I guess one exception would be if it's someone like Putin: well guarded, very difficult to apprehend, and kills people by the day for every day he's not stopped, so it kind of makes it a self-defense/survival thing even if it would have to be planned in advance.

Edit: jfc... lefties stop fedposting challenge, impossible

[–] nicky7@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I think for a lot of people, they'd normally be right there with you, and as you mentioned with self defense, the more people are pushed into survival-mode against someone hell-bent on destroying you, it starts to feel like destroying Nazis is the moral thing to do. Are you familiar with the Paradox of Tolerance? If you tolerate intolerance, it will take over society, so one could argue you must never tolerate intolerance. With Nazis being the real world embodiment of this paradox, extending that reasoning, the morally responsible thing to do is to destroy Nazis any time and place they spring up.

[–] gabbath@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

You say "destroy" but you mean murder. That's not okay. I know the Paradox of Tolerance, and it doesn't say to jump to straight-up murder. That should never be the first thought, it should be the worst case scenario.

[–] nicky7@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think you missed the point. I mean Justifiable homicide. That's exactly how grave the threat here is, and not just for minorities.

e: for the record, i am the most non-violent person i know. I won't kill a fly, even flies deserve to live. I have no such feelings towards Nazis

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