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Yes hosting lmao
I suppose South Korea is voluntarily hosting us, the US is the reason they even exist at all. And provided a large portion of their defense, but Japan is a very different story.
No. Korea, the nation, was occupied by Japan. It existed as an occupied nation. The USA, after nuking Japan, took over the Japanese colony on the Korean peninsula. The Korean people resisted the occupiers when they were Japanese, and again when they were American. The Russians supported the Korean people in their resistance of the occupying forces of the Americans. The Americans found all of the Koreans that were allied with their oppressors as their mode of survival and supported them in their reactionary defense against liberation. On doing so, the USA negotiated a partitioning of Korea with the USSR to avoid direct conflict between America and the USSR. That partitioning allowed the foreign occupation of Korea to continue.
South Korea is not a nation, it's a colonial state. They do not have sufficient sovereignty to voluntarily host their occupiers. The Korean people in South Korea are the result of separating out the Koreans who sought liberation and killing them in the north of the country - the people left were dominated or complicit. There's nothing voluntary about that.
The southern portion of the Korean peninsula would still exist as Korea with or without the USA. The difference would not be that it would or would not "exist at all" but rather whether it would exist as an occupied colony or as an independent nation-state.
Woof, calling the entire democratic nation of South Korea nothing more than a colonial state is highly disrespectful to basically every South Korean.
South Korea as we know it would not exist without imperialism, and the US had no buisness there in the first place. I do agree with you there.
That doesn't mean that the current modern South Korean state doesn't have the right to exist. Especially given the current conditions of North Korea.
And i reject the absolutely baseless assertion that modern South Korea is an occupied state. It did start that way, but the South Korean government if fully independent. It's like saying that modern day Germany is an occupied state because it hosts US bases. It's demonstrably false.
Kinda insane you're using imperialism to de-legitimatize a modern democratic nation.
I don't think you know what a nation is. The Korean people are a nation - from the Latin root natus, they all share a common birth. However, there are two states, North Korea and South Korea. Both of them are internationally recognized states, meaning we currently have one nation (Korea) split between two states. The split between these states is entirely a construction of imperialism. The people in DPRK and the people in the occupied South do not constitute different nations nor is the 38th parallel a historical division within and among the Korean people that would constitute a meaningful boundary for their self-determination.
The Americans had no business being there at all nor demanding a partition of a nation of people. They did so as part of maintaining colonial occupation for the purpose of anti-conmunism both against the USSR and also against the emerging PLA in China. The US destroyed everything north of the 38th parallel to punish the portion of the Koreans who decided they would not allow their country to continue to be a colony. The USA bombed the countryside until pilots literally went on bombing runs and came back with full payloads because there were no more targets left to bomb. The USA used so much napalm that Koreans needed to live in caves.
The southern portion of the country (land) that was inhabited by the nation of Korea (people) was turned into a new state (South Korea) by the USA and purged of all people who would oppose them and their ideology. South Korea is ONLY separate because of an international legal fiction perpetrated by the US against the Korean people (the nation of Korea).
The leadership culture of the South was built entirely on subjugation to the US war machine. Leaders survived or failed or died based on their allegiance to the US military occupation. The transition from full occupation to what exists today is one of loosening the leash on a captive one inch at a time to confirm that the punishing dominance has had the desired effect - that effect being complete subjugation to the interests of the dominator.
You think the Korean people want US nukes on submarines in its waters? You think the Korean people want to have half of their homeland completely inaccessible to them? You think the Korean people want half of their people to be completely isolated from them? You think they like having the DMZ as an eternal reminder of the constant threat of readied lethal force directed at their own countrypersons?
One day, there will be one nation-state of Korea, and the division created by the imperialists will dissolve and the trauma of this period can begin to be integrated and healed by the Korean people, but it will not happen until the US loses its violent dominance over the Pacific region.
Youre right on saying that the US is the only reason korea is partitioned tho
Right, the South Korean government does actually appreciate existing I'd imagine
Yes i imagine the compradores/chaebols are very happy with that arrangement. The 99% of the people, eh not so much.
You think 99% of South Koreans would have preferred living under a dictatorship? That's a dumb take
bruh they live under a dictatorship 😂
A demonstrably false claim.
And if you're talking about their current president's attempts those were defeated fairly quickly through parliamentary vote. It actually demonstrates their democracy's resiliency.