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I blame Abrahamic religions, personally
I don't, actually.
That was a common basis for it in the west, but it's demonstrably not the only basis, as illustrated by similar toxically masculine bullshit in places like Japan and India.
And beyond that, I don't think it's even as commonly the basis as it used to be in the west - that at this point, much (most?) of it traces back to secular misogynist culture warriors like Andrew Tate.
And beyond that, I just reject the whole concept of blaming ideologies for the fact that some people are assholes. Clearly the problem is simply that they are assholes, and I think they deserve all of the blame for that themselves.
Now all that said, more power to ya. Any fight against toxic bullshit is worthwhile.
Do you think they're all just born that way? Gotta be some cultural component, even if not tied to a specific ideology
Of course there's a cultural component involved.
But that doesn't make a person into an asshole - it just establishes a path and some amount of pressure to follow it.
Pressure that can be resisted and a path that can be not followed.
Well sure. But isn't it more important to ask what the problem is and how it could be improved across society, than the appropriate way to allocate blame? You wrote earlier in this comment thread,
It seems to me like those people are themselves struggling to "resist pressure" and follow what they see as a "path" to being a good person, and thereby covering over what could be a source of empathy (and realization that their path is wrong) with shame.
Yes, and that's exactly why I hold the position I hold - because I believe that the problem is people failing/refusing to exercise their own abilities to control their own lives and their own choices and instead simply going with one flow or another, then blaming the flow when it carries them somewhere problematic.
So then the solution is, what, more telling them not to do that?