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[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (44 children)

"I have no math talent, but that's ok I'll use a tool to help" - absolutely no issues, math is hard and you don't need most of it in "real life" (nonsense of course)

"I can't code so I'll use a web page maker to help" - all good, learning to code is optional, it's what you create that matters right?

"Hey AI, break this concept down for me to help me learn it" - surprisingly, still good (though very ill advised, also built on plagiarism and putting private tutors out of work...).

"I have no art talent, but that's ok I'll use a tool to help" - society melts down because...?

I suppose it could just be a case of being happy to see talents we don't have replaced by a tool? Then again, it might be artists are better at generating attractive looking arguments for their case.

[–] ultrahamster64@lemmy.world 32 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)

"I have no math talent, but that's ok I'll use a tool to help"

What tools do you need to replace "math talent"? If you're talking about calculators - first of all they're for arithmetic, not math - and second they still do not help you to "solve math problems". You need logic, experience and intellect to do that. The only "tool" thag can help you is an online forum if someone already solved it.

"I can't code so I'll use a web page maker to help"

You still need to do stuff, think with your brain and spend time to build the web page. You need to have taste and work your sweat (and some tears) into it.

"Hey AI, break this concept down for me to help me learn it"

No, not good unless you want to be misinformed and/or manipulated

society melts down because...?

Because the massive group of people were screwd over without their consent to make a tool that going to devalue their work. If you look closely on the examples you yourself provided, you can see that they all respect copyright of others and are themselves often a good and productive work. Ai on the other hand were made "at the expense" of us, and we are rightfully mad.

[–] nekbardrun@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

What tools to to replace math work besides calculator?

Mathematica is one example that solves integrals and do some elementary proof run-down for you.

Granted that it is used mostly by STEM students. But I rarelly see someone totally forbiding the use of Mathematica as learning tool.

If you want a more High-school tool, then geogebra is another great example (and also opensource.

Pretty useful to plot the graphs and help you see what you're getting wrong.

I'm answering just to show that there are indeed mathematical tools used for the inbetween of a full math major and a "paltry peasant" that only needs to compute a good enough function for his problem be it an engineer working beams load, a chemist working enthalpy reactions or an biologist trying to find an EDO that best fits the data of prey/predator in a given ecosystem.

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