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[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 156 points 2 days ago (4 children)

If a deal does not go through, it makes Labour look bad.

No it fucking doesnt. Not giving a fuck about US demands is the most popular thing you can do right now.

[–] TON618@lemmy.world 52 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

And also the correct thing, from any position of reason.

Trying to control the way other countries are run is fucking wild, the notion of which should never even be remotely entertained.

[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Trying to control the way other countries are run is fucking wild, the notion of which should never even be remotely entertained.

In happier times, we call the process "diplomacy," and mostly limit it to things that affect us, directly or indirectly.

But pressuring other countries to, for example, clean up their corruption so we can reliably do business with them is common. (Also hilariously hypocritical) Pressuring other countries to enact civil rights laws is fairly common, too.

I have to admit, seeing pressure to remove civil rights is unusual, at least from countries not named UAE.

[–] TON618@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Diplomacy is fine, but the US wanting to change something in the UK that is neither a humanitarian issue or something that affects them at all, is like your car mechanic telling you what kind of furniture you're allowed to have in your house if you want him to work on your car.

He could technically do it, but it's also fucking absurd and you'd most definitely go to a different mechanic.

[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 3 points 2 days ago

I'm not saying I approve of what he's doing. Quite the contrary.

But it's what he's asking, and how he's asking, not that he's asking.