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[–] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 58 points 12 hours ago (14 children)

As a man, it is insane to me that this is real.

I have a difficult time imagining malicious intent towards women by all these people. But given how common these stories are, there is something true about it. I just don't understand why.

Is it really an unconscious cultural thing? Or am I naive about how my fellow men (I guess maybe women too) feel towards women?

Something in me refuses to believe that these people knowingly and intentionally harm women. But it sure as hell looks intentional.

I am not defending them. I am expressing my struggle with the reality of this shit.

[–] SavageCreation@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I want to say that "unconscious cultural" doesn't exist, but I don't think I'm right on it. You can easily build consciousness on those topics and thus easily spot the cases with risk for any wrongdoing, and with how common and well-known they are, it just feels more like "willingly ignorant".

[–] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Assuming that it is cultural, as it seems like your comment kinda assumes that. Like it seems you are saying, it was cultural but by now it is kinda intentional.

I would argue "willingly ignorant" is bad but also not making it less "unconscious cultural".

If they were willingly ignorant but also no cultural sexist, they wouldn't be an issue.

So well you have a point, but I would say that the unconscious cultural sexism could lead to willfully ignorant and you would kinda expect it.

I am not saying, you are fully wrong about the willingly ignorant part, I just don't think it would remove the cultural part.

Edit: ups edited the wrong comment. Sorry

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