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US ambassador to Israel says US no longer pursuing goal of independent Palestinian state
(www.theguardian.com)
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Not superior, but different. And yes, tribes are different, of course they are. Completely sober, a group of Germans/Finns and a group of Nigerians/Venezuelans/Algerians are completely different and we both know how. Western Europeans without ideology and morality turn into murderers. History proves it. They have fewer issues in dehumanising others, they sleep well at night in a house they robbed from people they killed (from the Native Americans to the Palestinians). No bs, can you say the same for other people in earnest?
So you're saying it's a cultural issue. Would you agree then that if easterners were to get culture that would allow them to justify colonization and murder, they would do the same things as westerners?
It's almost entirely cultural, of course, but I do think (I can't prove it, it's just travel and observation) that there are innate psychological differences to people of different tribes. The Congolese, the Austrian and the Nepali are different in a deeper way than nurture can account for, I think.
Okay well if it's cultural then culture can be changed. So if you're an easterner, you need to be careful that you don't end up like westerners. The ideological plague that hit westerners can get easterners as well.
At the end there, It kind of seemed like you were heading back towards the race argument.
What if it accounted for a little bit, the tiniest bit, of our psychological makeup? Would it be so terrible or dangerous of an idea? Not for clear minds and kind hearts, surely. I mean, everyone can swim and everyone can run but you know who's gotta have at least the smallest of edges everything else being equal, right? That's easy to accept, maybe this is just the next frontier, that we're not just tabula rasa, but we have some innate tendencies towards/eases and difficulties regarding A or B the more we have of this or another tribe in us. It's not something I will "die on a hill" for, simply because my evidence is all anecdotal, but 🤷.
Between person to person. Yeah that's fine. But comparing population to population is dangerous. Once you know, what do you do with that information?
Historically, this line of thinking has never worked out very well. And as time goes on, who cares, we'll all breed together anyway.
I don't take it personally that the further North I go, the more spaced out people are at bus stations and the further South I go, the louder people will talk, I guess.😅 But you're right, we aren't ready for it.
No, I don't take it personally and I would agree with you if you're asserting these differences are cultural. Unless you're saying this is genetic?
Edit: cultural or a result of societal pressure. I don't mean to imply that particular cultures are bad.
I was replying with the "what would you do with the information?" with that "I don't take personally etc etc"! 😅 As in, I won't take offence to 'weird' and seemingly antisocial behaviour, because I understand there's some differences in personality between tribes (meaning whatever they're giving me I need to reprocess accordingly). Perhaps, they have the tiniest bit of a genetic component (and are even harder/impossible to fully change, and hence why some of these differences and characteristics have been there seemingly forever). I mean, would that be that bad? Or does it really seem that far fetched?
Ah, sorry, I misunderstood.
I mean if it's a fun hobby of yours, go for it. But you know the history of this stuff as well as I do. It comes with a lot of baggage and people are not going to respond well to it. The group of people that will respond well to it, let's just say, I don't think you want to keep their company. Unless of course you are racist, in which case, you'd be fine.
Yep yep yep. A minor wrong turn and we're back at phrenology and 'genetic supremacy'...