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[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't care if you call me tankie LIB

You engage when i call you a LIB but not when asked questions, like why Sankara is the one good "authoritarian?" or people asking what you about your thoughts on anarchism beside "authoritarian bad." You just link to wikipedia and use that LIB -ass word tankie

[-] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

I don't care if you call me tankie !

You seem pretty movtivated in the conversation about me using the term tankie so I think this is bs.

Stop calling me a lib and we can have a conversation.

Are you interested in that?

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago
[-] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Rosa Luxemburg was a marxist who criticized Lenin.

She also accused both Vladimir Lenin and the Bolsheviks of having police state aspirations.

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

You support everyone that failed, and no one who succeeded. You're a left anti-communist, which is no better than being a LIB

[-] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

MLs like you are the reason I am an anarchist.

You asked for more communists i support and I listed some and now Im anti-communist because I don't support the ones who created police states. Were you just waiting for me to engage so you could call that?

Lol you make me want to call more people like you tankies because it is so applicable.

MLs who think the only path to revolution is thru police states, are authoritarian by nature.

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't consider any AES a police state. They are states, they utilize state power to defend themselves from threats from the capitalist class both internally and extermely, because those threats are reality.

Thats why Sankara was assasinated, Rosa Luxembourg was assassinated, why the Black Panthers were assassinated or imprisioned. The capitalist class kills its enemies utilizing the power of the state. And the Black Panthers, Sankara, and Luxembourg were well aware of that.

Believing in using the power of the state is part of ML doctrine, not creating police states, but utilizing that power for the proletariat. I don't think you actually differentiate between state and police state, or a capitalist state from a socislist one (since you conflate the Russian Federation with the USSR which are not the same thing).

Except, you do seem to able to differentiate, but only in cases were our revolutions failed, like in Burkina Faso, the Black Panthers, and Luxembourg. I'm not sure why all the communists you support are one's who failed.

[-] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Remind me, what happened to Rosa again?

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