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They were supporting the socialists in Afghanistan against the CIA backed Mujahideen. How is that imperialist?
Edit clarity: an invasion is not imperialist on its own., It's not about who does it, it's about the objectives of the invasion.
Lol do you hear yourself?
Tankie bullshit friend.
Afghanistan did not want to be invaded. The Afghans fought with the soviets through guerilla warfare for a decade.
You sound just like Americans justifying the US invasion that would happen later.
What's bullshit about it? You just say its bullshit but not why.
That's why you get called a
Do you even read the Wikipedia articles you link people to? The Afghans were asking for Soviet aid against insurgents backed by the US. The invasion happened when the USSR feared their allies in Afghanistan were not capable of handling the US supported insurgency that they thought would institute a theocracy there as had happened in Iran. Which is exactly what ended up happening there.
That's not what happened during the US invasion of Afghanistan. That invasion was a cover for war profiteeering, mineral extraction, and opiate production. Rhe US extracted value and resources from that region to enrich capitalists in the imperial core. That's what makes it imperialist.
Its bullshit to paint an invasion as aid. This is what imperialist do.
The soviets invaded afaganistan for the same reasons as the us did later and Briton did before.
To protect their borders from afar,
To create and protect trade deal favorable to their country,
To spread their ideology.
And by the way I read a book about the history of afaganistan called: Games Without Rules: The Often Interrupted History of Afghanistan.
It outlined how the three main invasion of Afghanistan all followed the same basic lines, motivations and results. They devastated Afghanistan and created a situation where they would be invaded again.
How could the USSR have invaded Afghanistan for the same reason as the US?
The USSR was there to oppose the US by fighting their proxies and defend the socialists in Afghanistan who supported them during the invasion.
The US invaded under the War on Terror pretext as a war profiteering entrerprise. They brought Unaco, Haliburton, KBR, PMCs, and other contractors in to extract value from the region to bring profits to the imperial core.
How are these two things the same?
Yes.
And also they wanted to protect thier trade and their borders from other imperialsts.
Why cant it be both?
Why are you unable to recognize that USSR could invade Afghanistan to protect socialst and to protect trade and secure thier borders?
Why cant you just admit that the USSR did some unsavory things? Do you think they are a perfect embodiment of communism?
They assassinated the communist president of Afghanistan before they invaded!
All othet arguments aside i dont support governments who use assassination that way.
The issue is that it isn't imperialist. You are unable to demarcate between what you consider unsavory actions and imperialism.
I'm not saying that i agree with all of the USSR's actions. I never said i was in support of this particular action for that matter. I am saying that the USSR was not imperialist because it did not engage in capitalist extraction or monopolization.