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Sooo… Israel just gathered 300k troops to invade Gaza
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I don't know if I saw it here, but someone asked the question "would you be an acceptable target for a violent Native American organization?" It gave me pause
Edit: I guess, the same way I don't enjoy that random people are killed, the same way I don't think the janitors in the twin towers had it coming for what the US did in the middle east, I wouldn't enjoy being targeted by a native American faction. I could comprehend why it was happening if I were in the crosshairs of some fuckin person's rifle while I'm just some fuckin person. I would just plea and bargain for my life and not some "you don't have to do this! be better than this!"
Don't let irrelevant hypotheticals distract you.
Is it really irrelevant? It seems like a valid question. If all settlers, civilians and militants alike, are valid targets, then the majority of us cheering on the Palestinian liberation would definitely be valid targets for Native American liberation. Does it make us hypocrites? Ought we (white Americans specifically) to be eradicated? And if we are not to be eradicated, what are the implications for Israelis? These are just questions that make me think and am now asking here, not trying to sway anyone or make some point.
I imagine people born into a settler colonial state deserve much more consideration than the people who literally stole the land themselves. That's especially the case as more and more generations pass and descendants of settlers become further and further removed from the initial spoils of colonialism.
For the most part, you can send Israeli settlers back to their country of origin just fine. But you can't just take a white person from America and send them back to some European country they've never been to and almost certainly don't speak the language of.
Making things right for indigenous Americans is going to look much different than making things right for Palestinians.
That makes sense. Thank you.
I acrually think it'd be pretry cool of white people like me were expelled from the US, i dont goce a damn i cant speak german, it'd be poetic jusrice if i ger drowned in the ocean
So there’s a movement called “land back” which is about restoring ownership of native lands to the indigenous populations, especially ownership of valuable resources such as mining rights.
There is no violent resistance so that is a meaningless hypothetical but there is a movement to restore economic autonomy in the form of land ownership and reparations and I think yes you should support something like that - which is the actually existing equivalent for Americans/Canadians/Australians etc.
That's interesting! I hadn't heard of land back. I'll definitely look into supporting them as I can when I can.
Wounded Knee 2 was 50 years ago. Second Zapatista uprising 30 years ago. Land defense actions over the last decade+ have generally been nonviolent but diversity of tactics is important especially when the settlers are so entrenched and the colonized so fractured and ~~led~~governed by multiple generations of compradors.
land back is part of that diversity of tactics but it's entirely insufficient on its own and absolutely ripe for grifting and abuse