this post was submitted on 07 Jul 2023
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The biggest c/gaming was on beehaw, but that's defederated. Maybe nobody else wanted to do it again and just stuck to smalller communities based on particular systems.
This is honestly very confusing.
When I originally decided to join a lemmy community I signed up with beehaw.org and was accepted. During the reddit apocalypse I also registered for lemmy.world
From my understanding, and someone please treat me like I'm a 5 year old, when I view gaming@beehaw.org via my lemmy.world account I only see old beehaw user posts (from before de-federation) and every lemmy.world user post but only lemmy.world users can see my posts? However, if I view from my beehaw account I can see all posts from lemmy.world and beehaw users but only beehaw users can see my posts?
Does this extend to comments? If I comment on a lemmy.world user's post through my beehaw account... that OP just won't ever see it?
Yes. Beehaw blocks lemmy.world (lw), but not vice versa.
Therefore, a lw user can see all new beehaw content, but any interaction - commenting or voting, will not get back to beehaw, and so it can't federate them to other instances either. So anything a lw user does on beehaw is only visible to other lw users.
Beehaw users can only see lw content from before when beehaw defederated from lw, but should be able to interact with it normally, except for other lw users like in the last paragraph.
I think you're mistaken.
A LW user does NOT see new beehaw content. If I visit gaming@beehaw.org on my LW account and sort by new... the newest post is 2d old from an infosec.pub user and the next newest is 4d from a LW user. However, if I visit gaming@beehaw.org from my beehaw account there's at least a dozen+ NEW posts from the last 24 hours, mostly from beehaw users.
But that kind of shows my point, it's confusing. I think the simplest way to think of it (again, very layman understanding that could be wrong). LW users on gaming@beehaw.org can only see posts and comments from non-beehaw users but the vast majority of the users/posts on that channel are from beehaw.
So non-local communities from (one-way) de-federated instances are basically mod-less spaces where users from federated instances can interact with eachother?
E.g. LW users and infosec users can create posts and comments on lemmy.world/c/gaming@beehaw.org, but the mods from beehaw.org/c/gaming have no power and don't even see it, since they are disconnected.
Wait did I get it exactly backwards? I need more sleep and less heat.