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[-] Clent@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

Forced? Not at all. Google happily complied.

Stop using Google products, people. There are alternatives for every service they offer. They haven't invented anything new in over a decade

[-] knexcar@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

If we aren’t committing any crimes, why should we care?

[-] Solumbran@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Good thing that laws are perfect, huh?

[-] M4rkF@fosstodon.org 10 points 1 year ago

@knexcar @throws_lemy @Clent

If you didn't commit a crime, why should be part of the line up of suspects?

[-] knexcar@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I guess it could sometimes be an unfortunate coincidence that you do something suspicious where a crime just occurred. But surely you’d be proven innocent after looking at other evidence.

[-] ram@bookwormstory.social 15 points 1 year ago

In a perfect world, sure. This is not a perfect world. The justice system wrongly convicts people every day.

[-] drbluefall@toast.ooo 6 points 1 year ago

"If you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to fear."

[-] CorruptBuddha@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago

Privacy, freedom, and corruption? Like Trump banned international travel from how many Muslim countries? The fact that that happened at all is insane. You don't think these tools will be abused? Like the UK banned fetish porn (which has been thankfully overturned). You would be fine if say.. these tools were used to monitor your sexual habits?

[-] varsock@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

if you're not doing any weird shit at home, why have blinds in your windows?

[-] ghazi@mastodon.tn 0 points 1 year ago
[-] knexcar@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

That was confounded because his mother’s ex boyfriend seemed to be the murderer and used his car. Am I the only person on Lemmy who DOESN’T obsess over privacy, demand FOSS, and refuse to use Windows? My mother doesn’t have a shady ex-boyfriend, and it seems like a pretty fair exchange otherwise to give up my data in exchange for great free services that generally work pretty well — it’s not like I could sell my data myself. Nor am I paying my own money to use them. I don’t feel like getting a worse experience for e.g. maps (saw another post about it) just for the sake of data that (for most intents and purposes) doesn’t affect me directly.

[-] ghazi@mastodon.tn 3 points 1 year ago

@knexcar @throws_lemy @Clent Maybe you won't face a problem with law enforcement caused by some company sharing your data with the law enforcement. On an individual level, yeah sure, you probably won't get affected. But on a societal level, do we accept having some people's lives ruined by these techniques? I don't think so.
In general, is it acceptable that we give some for-profit companies full access to our data so they can manipulate our buying behaviors with their targeted ads?

[-] knexcar@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

That’s fair, we as a society are probably manipulated quite a lot. though I feel like law enforcement getting cases wrong is a somewhat separate issue from the “targeted ads” one. The alternative would be to use shittier evidence, potentially racism, or just let it go unsolved. I hate ads too and I block them so I don’t have to see them. I guess I’m tired that 1/3 of Lemmy posts seem to be about privacy/FOSS, I wish there was more variety like the R-site.

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