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[–] CorruptBuddha@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Ohh! So I rewatched Voyager!

Sevenofnine never wanted to be human.. Like she desperately missed the collective for a LOONG time. Janeway forced it on her.

Also! Janeway fucking killed off Tuvick. Dude was begging for his life.

Sorry haha, just wanted to bitch.

[–] lasagna@programming.dev 10 points 1 year ago (6 children)

The Borg are arguably the most evil force of that universe. What Janeway did is about the only way to convert them back.

Tuvick is a bit more morally ambiguous and a good pick. Either choice would have killed someone, in a sense.

I think a worse one is that time they grew a clone just for their organs. This was Voyager, right? Star Trek do be like that.

[–] drapeaunoir@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

IMHO this situation was not morally ambiguous, like at all. There was a transporter accident. Two crewmen died. That's that. The fact that a new sentient being came to life as a result is a completely separate matter. That being (Tuvix) as far as anyone should be concerned, was a newborn.

At that point, what you had was a tragic accident of no one's intention or volition.

The choice was never "save two crewmen" vs "save Tuvix," because at that point, the two crewman were already dead. And Tuvix was alive and in no danger. There was no moral impetus to do anything. A tragedy happened, it sucks. Move on with life.

So IMHO Janeway absolutely, intentionally, volitionally murdered Tuvix, who was a newborn in no danger. She absolutely resurrected two crewman who were already dead. She did this for her own personal reasons, and acted immorally. QED.

Thank you for coming to my irrationally-important-to-me TED talk.

[–] Lord_Kettle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The only wrong choice Janeway made is not shooting Neelix after separating them to avoid future incidents like infecting Voyager with cheese.

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