Dude, their existence prevents the meaningful enforcement of the law. Literally anyone else could do a better job than some thug caste which only pretends to enforce law but doesn't.

[–] Smirk@sh.itjust.works -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Let's take the thought a step further and ask; who's existence wouldn't prevent the meaningful enforcement of the law?

IMO police, or something to that nature, are pretty necessary in today's society, but the boundaries they have, are stepped over time and time again, without the proper repercussions.

What's your take?

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

For those watching at home, what this bootlicker is doing is sealioning. It involves asking questions for which the answers will never be satisfactory while pretending to be nice and civil.

His line of reasoning is this:

These stupid fucking liberals have no plan for what to do after the police are removed
So let's ask them what do we do afterward?
Then we either deconstruct every answer they provide or call them out on having no answer
Then disingenuously dismiss the idea of getting rid of police as ill thought out and immature when we never had any intention of conceding the point to begin with, because we want police to continue subjugating and abusing people, because we are bigots

Because their justification for having police is:

The people are not capable or mature enough to conduct criminal investigations, arrest suspects or humanely punish them (even though that's literally what humanity has been doing for thousands of years and the institution of police has proven itself wholly incapable of those tasks and even worse, directly causing and enabling the crime it's supposedly there to mitigate, and the prison system the police run is completely fucking inhumane)
Therefore the people need an institution of professionals to do it for them (even though police are not trained to conduct formal investigations, forensic science is not a legitimate science at all and is completely broken at best, and humanity has again managed to exist thousands of years in peace and happiness without thug castes and only suffer when they are there)

And ignoring the fact that bootlickers like him are deeply insulting the intelligence of everyone else in the discussion and this clown is clearly NOT being nice at all because he's advocating for your brutal subjugation under the jackboot of sadistic racists that only want to bully, abuse, rape and murder you, other individuals have already answered the question effectively, so why am I going to entertain scum like him?

So here's what I am gonna say to him instead:

How about instead of wasting our time sealioning to push a line of reasoning designed to manipulate our fears and put down our self esteem and self worth in order to convince us to accept an obviously failed institution that causes nothing but harm and abuses us in horrific ways, you take your fake attitude and go fuck yourself with it?

What's your take on that?

[–] Smirk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So, here we are.

You said your piece, and it turns out you're completely wrong in your assumptions, and instead of addressing that fact, and re-engageing me, you've ignored what I replied with. You stroked your ego initially by not engaging with me and addressing every one else in the thread, in a very shallow way I might add, but I do wonder how your ego is doing now? This is a potential learning point for you, but only you can decide to become better than the person you were a few days ago. I do hope.

Maybe you've just learnt the term sealioning, and it's your word of the week. You might carry on lambasting people based on your misguided interpretations, but I have hope you'll one day think critically about this interaction, and move forward with a new understanding.

I'll go out on a limb and assume you're American, young, and just immature and naive enough to think you have all the answers, which from my experience leaves you an "all or nothing" attitude, and so everything is a fight for you.

Unable to see nuance in conversation, especially over the Internet where context is very easily mistaken, I'll give you some friendly, human to human advice; sometimes people just want to learn, and not everything is a fight you have to take.

Based on the aggressive tone of your comment, seeing a legitimate question as a perceived slight at best, you might already be set in your ways.

To put it bluntly, you saw that you should gatekeep a learning moment for someone else, probably more or less on your side, trying to understand the nuance of the conversation.

I read something on here that makes a lot of sense to me, and so I'll repeat it here. The America DEI mentality is anything but inclusive, and is very confrontational to the point of working against what it's supposed to defend.

I recommend you read Aldous Huxleys:The island, and try to understand that compassion, not baseless vitriol, is the way we progress as a species.

If you take anything away from this, coming from someone far further along the left leaning path you're quite clearly on, to me you're just as bad as the people you vilify, such as the police in America. Your reaction without due cause is just as bad as theirs, thankfully you haven't nearly the power or influence they have, and if you are truly are as liberal as you think you are, I believe you're at least on the right path, even if your delivery and methods are synonymous with the right.

I wish you the best for the future.

Yours sincerely, the biggest advocate for a true functional utopia you'll ever have the pleasure of interacting with, online or in person.

Peace.

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