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[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I think cause and effect are mixed here. Americans having to pick between two shitty right wing parties is the reason why one would feel like every election is the most important election. The fact that they're so much alike is the biggest reason why they create as much dissent as possible.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 12 points 10 months ago

Back in the 1970s, The Moral Majority took over the GOP by voting. They would show up at every local GOP club at every event. If 20 people had shown up the last time they picked the new dog catcher, the MMs would show up with fifty people. They didn't have a lot of money or connections yet, but they had people showing up all the time. Need someone to pass out petitions? MMs were there. Drive folks to the polls? Meanwhile, the Dems had counted on the Unions to do those jobs. That's why the GOP hated the Unions and did everything to dismantle them.

No one is going to hand you power.

[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I agree with everything you just said but I don't think either big US party can be reformed to serve people instead of capital. Whichever organizing done by people, through the the voting system or otherwise, will fall flat if allowed to be co-opted by them, the two party system ensures it.

[-] g8phcon2@teacup.social 1 points 10 months ago

That's a defeatist additute. You can be a realist withotu being a defeatist. There's always hope. I probably have as little faith in electoral politics as you do, but forming real relationships with real neighbors we can actually create the world our politicians would never support.

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