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Last year, I wrote a great deal about the rise of “ventilation shutdown plus” (VSD+), a method being used to mass kill poultry birds on factory farms by sealing off the airflow inside barns and pumping in extreme heat using industrial-scale heaters, so that the animals die of heatstroke over the course of hours. It is one of the worst forms of cruelty being inflicted on animals in the US food system — the equivalent of roasting animals to death — and it’s been used to kill tens of millions of poultry birds during the current avian flu outbreak.

As of this summer, the most recent period for which data is available, more than 49 million birds, or over 80 percent of the depopulated total, were killed in culls that used VSD+ either alone or in combination with other methods, according to an analysis of USDA data by Gwendolen Reyes-Illg, a veterinary adviser to the Animal Welfare Institute (AWI), an animal advocacy nonprofit. These mass killings, or “depopulations,” in the industry’s jargon, are paid for with public dollars through a USDA program that compensates livestock farmers for their losses.

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[–] GiuseppeAndTheYeti@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago (14 children)

They're not mutually exclusive. There's plenty of ways to buy ethically sourced meat. Local butchers often buy pigs, chickens, and cows to butcher and cut for consumers near me. The cows typically have a central barn where they have clean bedding and recycling water troughs, get fed every morning (maybe night), and are allowed to freely roam in a pasture whenever they please.

I eat about the size of my palm of meat every day, so over the corse of a year i probably eat 5-6 chickens, a sixth of a pig, and an eight of a cow. At those numbers, it's totally possible to make ethically sourced meat work as a business.

[–] triangle5106@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago (12 children)

A substantial percentage of people have access to food systems that allow them to thrive on plants alone, freeing them from a dependence on animal products. For these individuals, is 'ethically sourced meat' even possible? That is to say: if we know that killing a living being is unnecessary, is it ethical to do it anyway?

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (7 children)

The "ethical" food typically cost more -- what if they can't afford it? Would you give them financial aid, or does your preaching stop at words?

[–] max@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Rice veggies and beans is among the cheapest of foods.

[–] Drusas@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's also great depression food if you eat it regularly!

And anyway, not everybody can eat all the same foods. Plenty of people can't eat beans without shitting their brains out, for example. Likewise with a lot of vegetables, though then it depends on the type of vegetable.

[–] Kase@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Honestly. I absolutely agree that it's a great cheap and healthy meal, and it's one I eat just about every day. But it tends to be the only suggestion I see people make in these threads. Like don't get me wrong, it's a great suggestion, but c'mon

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