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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 208 points 1 year ago (24 children)

Doesn't matter what the headlines or the opinion polls say. Vote like democracy depends on it!

[–] Why9@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

I don't live in the US so I don't have a horse in this race

But it just seems like half of the people here can't qualify Biden's successes (and why he'd be worth a second voting for again) and the other half are just scared that Trump is on his way back and therefore the Dems need to vote like crazy to keep him out, regardless of how lacklustre his current term was.

I'll say it here: he lost the popular vote with his unequivocal support for Israel. As a self proclaimed Zionist, he chose Israel's genocide of Gaza over Trump's victory and too many voters are going to remember that over whatever he's going to promise (which so far is nothing; his campaign so far is just reminding everyone that the other guy exists).

There's no way Dems win this one, unless Biden cedes to a more worthwhile candidate.

[–] JeffCraig@citizensgaming.com 3 points 1 year ago

I really don't think Gaza will be a defining issue in the 2024 election. It's already fallen out of the news cycle and Gaza city will be under full occupation by next Nov.

Trump, however, will be in the middle of taking a huge beating by all his court cases. There's zero chance he ever gets more support than what he had last election. The best thing we can hope for is that the GOP puts him up for another election.

Both parties have the same issue right now. Both candidates don't have great appeal. But there aren't any Democrats that have an issue voting for Biden. He's been fine as president. We don't have to worry about him going off half cocked all the time. The party will fall behind him. The same can't be said for Trump.

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